I was not trying to say sql server is better or worse than U2  just
Different - hence supporting my argument that xml and socket calls are OK in
unibasic



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On 04/10/12 09:43, Symeon Breen wrote:
> Ok so perhaps there is this and that. My point is a database like SQL 
> server is architected in a  very different manner to U2

But that's why U2 is superior :-)

- it is the actual central
> sqlserver.exe process that does the majority of the work, it accesses 
> the tables and presents them to the api,

its caching often used data,

Which U2 actually does far better - (a) it leaves it to the OS, and (b) with
a "disk hit rate" approaching 100% it doesn't need the cache that often
(that's badly put, but I know what I mean :-)

it obeys
> the schema, transaction, referential, indexing rules, it map reduces 
> collations and totals, it looks after security, pools, licencing a 
> whole plethora of things. Thereis a lot more out of the box inside SQL 
> server than there is from U2 (again not saying it is better, just 
> different)

That's what gets me - U2 is often assumed to be inferior because it doesn't
have the things SQL databases have, when the reality is it doesn't have them
because it doesn't need them!

The central
> U2 processes look after licencing, locks, shared memory subroutines 
> and a few other things. It is the udt or uvsh client process in which 
> your databasic runs that has built into it the DB access code this is 
> the key difference I feel, and hence why I feel clever unibasic code 
> has a right to do clever things with sockets and xml etc.
> 
But it would be nice if more of these things (even if written in BASIC,
which is a *good* thing) actually came "out of the box" with U2.

Cheers,
Wol
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