The U2 database does do indexing.
-----Original Message----- From: Symeon Breen <syme...@gmail.com> To: 'U2 Users List' <u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org> Sent: Thu, Oct 4, 2012 12:56 am Subject: Re: [U2] Consuming Web Services But we all know U2 is much more than a DB, in fact it is also much less than a DB. The concept of having the DB just do DB stuff works fine for SQL server and MySQL where the DB itself actually does a lot in terms of the data, and the clients, written in .NET, C, Python Java etc do all the business logic. For these stored procedures do exist but are usually kept to a minimum and certainly only for data interaction. The U2 databases are actually quite stupid, they store and retrieve data from tables in a (hopefully) quick and efficient manner, but they certainly don't do any of the clever stuff you find inside Sql server like map reduce, caching, indexing etc. The clever bits are what we do in the unibasic code. So I firmly believe there IS a case for the clever Unibasic code we write to access data over http, read in xml and to then process all of these different data streams. Yeah sure there are things which in theory are easier to do outside It does not mean you should always do things outside of unibasic. -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bill Brutzman Sent: 03 October 2012 23:48 To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Consuming Web Services Tony and Ben are right on... Invoking Stephen Colbert's concept of... "The Word"... the word is... "MiddleWare". As legacy U2 was ahead of its time... by building-in middleware technologies... it is easy to lose sight of what belongs where. --Bill -----Original Message----- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Tony Gravagno Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 6:31 PM Subject: Re: [U2] Consuming web services I do the same as Ben but with .NET: -- Local U2 <> .NET client <web service> Remote server Pick is a database server, not a communications protocol end-point. We simply should not be doing direct comms from this platform anymore, given the huge number of mainstream options. This is coming from someone who has written all of the bi-directional comms interfaces to/from MV with sockets and cURL and plugins and anything else I could create - because (in the 90's) people said it wasn't possible and because I figured it would be kewl just to do it. It _is_ all technically possible, but that doesn't mean it makes good business sense: Doing things like this in BASIC creates a maintenance hassle later. It leaves the environment subject to DBMS-specific issues that often aren't addressed for quite a long time. Using mainstream tools vastly increases the resources available for getting help and solving problems. So these days I get MV to push a query or data payload out to a middle-tier that uses the latest communications methods available. The request goes out, the response comes back, it all just works - that That should be our bottom line here. HTH T > From: Ben Souther > We use a middle layer written in Java. > Jeff Schasny wrote: > > I know we have both the SOAP and RESTful web services development for > > publishing web services from Universe but how are folks consuming > > other peoples web services into the database? Are there tools for this > > or am I going to just open a socket, read, and parse 'till I'm blue in the face? _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users _______________________________________________ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
