While I have seen the aversion to MS products on this list, I do like the way Outlook allows me to sort by subject then by received date/time. It is "smart enough" to handle the replies as part of a subject flow.
Usually most of the threads are in blocks in the intray. I don't know if other products allow this. The sorting does go astray when someone changes the subject - so please restrain yourselves. My 2¢ Jef Lee IT Vision Level 3 Kirin Centre, 15 Ogilvie Road, APPLECROSS, WA 6153 Tel: (08) 9315 7000 Fax: (08) 9315 7088 P O Box 881, Canning Bridge, WA 6153 A.C.N. 068 914 867 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray DeGennaro at Eaglerock IS Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2004 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [ADMIN] The aforementioned and promised NAG about OVERQUOTING >Susan, > Curious, I find the reverse to be true. Since I usually read in >threads, I find that having to scroll through the last part to get >to the current part mildly annoying. The information flow problem is that messages, especially email, don't always arrive and sort threaded. This is problem is further compounded because somebody could reply today to a message that was deleted from your Inbox or expired from your news server days or even weeks ago. Without interposting, you have no idea where the reply fits into the thread. If you are a reader that typically reads through an entire thread, when it's essentially dead, and don't mind the occasional reply that's out of place because somebody has their clock out of sync, or the time zone set incorrectly, then that's fine for you. But top-posting still makes things more difficult for just about everybody else. The byte flow problem, is the one that directly affects Cliff and the digests. Unfortunately, 99.9999% of Top-Posters neglect to trim the quoted message to the relevant material. That wastes huge amounts of bandwidth. Another thing to remember here, is that Usenet and email are international, and that the US is pretty much the only place where almost everybody can get internet access without per-byte or per-minute charges. Please note I typed "almost everybody" -- There are still places in the US where there are no local access numbers and people have to pay per-minute line charges in order to access their "unlimited" internet accounts. There really are no valid reasons to top-post, but there are plenty of valid reasons to inter-post and trim the quoted material. That's why it's been a flameable action on Usenet for over twenty years. Top-posting has only become more common in recent years because OE and a few other email/newsreader hybrids (that really don't do either well) make it tough to reply correctly and newbies are showing up everyday, not just in the first couple of weeks in September. Insisting on top-posting and not trimming the quoted material, especially when there's replies that have already been right-posted (aka inter-posted), I hate to say it, is just plain rude and self serving. Please take a moment and read the material listed in the two links previously provided. If you missed them, here they are again: <http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html> <http://www.greenend.org.uk/rjk/2000/06/14/quoting> Ray -- .=================================================================. | =-=-=-=-=-=-= Eagle Rock Information Systems Corp =-=-=-=-=-=-= | | -=-=-=-=-=-=- web and database business solutions -=-=-=-=-=-=- | | <http://www.eriscorp.com> <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | |Midwest Regional Office: 815-547-0662 (voice) 503-905-8153 (eFax)| .=================================================================. -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users -- u2-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.oliver.com/mailman/listinfo/u2-users
