Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote:
> Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB > able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. > > $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive > lease). > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, > but not 'juicy'. :) > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month > (per sector). Now we're talking. > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can > beat the interference from CPS Energy. > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. > $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available. > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive > ARPU up). > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector > with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. > And the beat goes on. > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make > that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. > > But that's just me. :) > > YMMV. > > JP > > *On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote* > > CAMBIUM: > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 > = TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ > $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months > > > > UBNT: > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor > $600 = TOTAL: $3600 > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months > > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs > is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: > > >> >> >> > >> > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come >> talk about cost. :) >> > >> > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. >> > >> > JP >> > >> > *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote* >> > >> > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! >> > > >> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> > > >>> >>> >>> > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. >>> > > >>> > > Josh Luthman >>> > > Office: 937-552-2340 >>> > > Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> > > 1100 Wayne St >>> > > Suite 1337 >>> > > Troy, OH 45373 >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart < >>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in >>>> foliage and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill >>>> which makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard >>>> press to deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is >>>> Terrain, Terrain Terrain... and height. >>>> > > >>>> > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as >>>> opinions will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. >>>> > > >>>> > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have >>>> customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is >>>> enough time to recover investment and make something. >>>> > > >>>> > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, >>>> not even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector >>>> shielding which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. >>>> > > >>>> > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market >>>> where possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. >>>> Hell, we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! >>>> > > >>>> > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart < >>>> cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: >>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work >>>>> in foliage areas. >>>>> > > >>>>> > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions < >>>>> r...@thpi.net> wrote: >>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real life >>>>>> experience input. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? >>>>>> > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? >>>>>> > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? >>>>>> > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about one >>>>>> mile away from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine trees about >>>>>> 80 >>>>>> to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions? >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > Thank you in advance for your reply. >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> >>>>>> *Ralf > > Gulf Wireless Inc. > > * >>>>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> > > >>>> >>>> >>>> > > _______________________________________________ >>>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> > > >>> >>> >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > Ubnt_users mailing list >>> > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> > > >>> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > > -- >> > > >> > > -RickG >> > >> > Joe Portman >> > Alamo Broadband Inc. >> > www.alamobroadband.com >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Ubnt_users mailing list >> > Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -RickG > > > Joe Portman > Alamo Broadband Inc. > www.alamobroadband.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG
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