I became a multimillionaire through the judicious use of debt. Went from 0 to $2.1 million a year in 4.5 years, from 0 to 11000 dialup customers.
Could not have done it with cash. :) I have Jim Hollis (fispa) to thank for opening my eyes to cash flow based financing. Nothing major gets built without leverage. YMMV, JP On Thu, 31 May 2018 14:04:59 -0400, RickG wrote > Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company. > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: > > > Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too low. :) SB > able to charge more. Good price is $69.95. > > $10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY expensive lease). > > 10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump. Acceptable, but > not 'juicy'. :) > > 20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per month (per > sector). Now we're talking. > > We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if we can > beat the interference from CPS Energy. > > Get better lease terms and profit goes up. > > Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as well. $199 > seems reasonable if no other service is available. > Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to drive ARPU > up). > > Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for sector > with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW) > Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers. > > And the beat goes on. > > $350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd make that > deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday. > > But that's just me. :) > > YMMV. > > JP > > > On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote> CAMBIUM: > > Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 + Labor $600 = > > TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth & support)Inflow: 10 customers @ > > $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months > > > > UBNT: > > Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750 + Labor > > $600 = TOTAL: $3600 > > Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month > > ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months > > > > That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on LOS subs is > > much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is not LOS! :) > > > > On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote: > > > > > > You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and then come talk > > about cost. :) > > > > 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with 10 clients. > > > > JP > > > > On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote > > > > > > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey! > > > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman > > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: > > > > > > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last couple years. > > > > > > Josh Luthman > > > Office: 937-552-2340 > > > Direct: 937-552-2343 > > > 1100 Wayne St > > > Suite 1337 > > > Troy, OH 45373 > > > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> > > > wrote: > > > > > > What to expect with the best of experiences. Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage > > > and at least 100' over treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which > > > makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I would be hard press to > > > deploy in flat land with foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, > > > Terrain Terrain... and height. > > > > > > Get recommendations from someone who has similar terrain, as opinions > > > will always matter between those WISPs in various conditions. > > > > > > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36 months and have > > > customers that can only be serviced via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is > > > enough time to recover investment and make something. > > > > > > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz in a long time, not > > > even a shielded radio like the TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding > > > which costs wind load and weight issue for commercial leases. > > > > > > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required for each market where > > > possible. But I expect we will have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, > > > we still have a few Alvarians collecting money! > > > > > > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart > > > <cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote: > > > > > > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded Sectors to make it work in > > > foliage areas. > > > > > > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking Head Productions > > > <r...@thpi.net> wrote: > > > > > > > > > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz radios and need real lifeexperience > > > input. > > > > > > Do they cut through heavy pine trees? > > > What is the real distance I can archive through pine trees? > > > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput? > > > I have 3 customers who would like to sign up. They are about onemile away > > > from the tower. The distance is through heavy pine treesabout 80 to 100 > > > feet tall. Any suggestions? > > > > > > Thank you in advance for your reply. > > > > > > Ralf > > > Gulf Wireless Inc. > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > -RickG > > > > Joe Portman > > Alamo Broadband Inc. > > www.alamobroadband.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Ubnt_users mailing list > > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > -RickG > > Joe Portman > Alamo Broadband Inc. > www.alamobroadband.com > > _______________________________________________ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > > > > -- > > -RickG Joe Portman Alamo Broadband Inc. www.alamobroadband.com
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