Us as well...
Cash is king.
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On 5/31/2018 3:34 PM, Kees H. wrote:
Same here, makes it easier to make it through the downturns in the economy
*From:* RickG
*Sent:* Thursday, May 31, 2018 11:04 AM
*To:* Ubiquiti Users Group
*Subject:* Re: [Ubnt_users] UBNET 900Mhz
Ah, that's the difference between us - I run a debt free company.
On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 11:23 AM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com> wrote:
Well, if there is no other service available, $50/month is too
low. :) SB able to charge more. Good price is $69.95.
$10000*.035 = $350 month for 60 months. (and that is a VERY
expensive lease).
10 customers at $70 = $700/month. $350 profit off the jump.
Acceptable, but not 'juicy'. :)
20 customers at $70 = $1400/month (per sector) = $1000 profit per
month (per sector). Now we're talking.
We have hundreds of no-go site surveys that might work with 900 if
we can beat the interference from CPS Energy.
Get better lease terms and profit goes up.
Charge an installation fee to cover some of your upfront costs as
well. $199 seems reasonable if no other service is available.
Add in a managed router service (or anything you can think of to
drive ARPU up).
Now your upfront for 20 customers = $4000 for radios and $6000 for
sector with backup. (you only need ONE backup BTW)
Second sector is only $7K for 20 customers.
And the beat goes on.
$350/month for lease payment vs $1400 for incoming cash flow. I'd
make that deal every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
But that's just me. :)
YMMV.
JP
*On Wed, 30 May 2018 23:50:32 -0400, RickG wrote*
> CAMBIUM:
> Outlay: AP (x2 for backup) $5000 + CPE/Antenna (x 11) $4400 +
Labor $600 = TOTAL: $10000 (not including bandwidth &
support)Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month
> ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 20 months
>
> UBNT:
> Outlay: AP ($250 (x2 for backup) $500 + CPE/Antenna (x11) $2750
+ Labor $600 = TOTAL: $3600
> Inflow: 10 customers @ $50/month = $500/month
> ROI (Not counting labor or any issues): 7.2 months
>
> That's a big difference, especially when you consider my ROI on
LOS subs is much, much less! 3 cheers for LOS! Too bad everyone is
not LOS! :)
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 10:08 PM, J Portman <ba...@baron.com>
wrote:
>
>
> You think so? Take a look at ANY of the LTE solutions and
then come talk about cost. :)
>
> 2500 for an AP seems steep, but amortizes VERY quickly with
10 clients.
>
> JP
>
> *On Tue, 29 May 2018 23:58:02 -0400, RickG wrote*
>
> > Cambium 450i 900 is very pricey!
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 12:56 PM, Josh Luthman
<j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
> >
> > Cambium came out with their 450i in 900 in the last
couple years.
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018, 12:54 PM Clay Stewart
<cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote:
> >
> > What to expect with the best of experiences.
Expect 4-10Mbps in foliage and at least 100' over
treetops on a tower. We have a bit of hill which
makes the difference for eight over the terrain. I
would be hard press to deploy in flat land with
foliage. As with any frequency, it is Terrain, Terrain
Terrain... and height.
> >
> > Get recommendations from someone who has similar
terrain, as opinions will always matter between those
WISPs in various conditions.
> >
> > If you have no pending competition in next 24-36
months and have customers that can only be serviced
via 900Mhz, then try it out. That is enough time to
recover investment and make something.
> >
> > I agree though, nothing has been done with 900Mhz
in a long time, not even a shielded radio like the
TIs, or a better, lighter sector shielding which costs
wind load and weight issue for commercial leases.
> >
> > We are converting from 900Mhz at a pace required
for each market where possible. But I expect we will
have them for awhile in many spots. Hell, we still
have a few Alvarians collecting money!
> >
> > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 10:09 AM, Clay Stewart
<cstew...@scsbroadband.com> wrote:
> >
> > You have to use Rocket Yagis with Shielded
Sectors to make it work in foliage areas.
> >
> > On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 3:16 PM, Ralf-Talking
Head Productions <r...@thpi.net> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I am interested in Ubiquitie's 900Mhz
radios and need real life experience input.
> >
> > Do they cut through heavy pine trees?
> > What is the real distance I can archive
through pine trees?
> > Does it have sufficient bandwidth throughput?
> > I have 3 customers who would like to sign
up. They are about one mile away from the
tower. The distance is through heavy pine
trees about 80 to 100 feet tall. Any suggestions?
> >
> > Thank you in advance for your reply.
> >
> > *Ralf
> > Gulf Wireless Inc.
> > *
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