>- Let's not break distro, SRUs and existing distro policies exist for >a reason; breaking my dad's computer isn't worth it, so ....
>- Let's do a "blessed" PPA with the latest drivers, so that people can > just get those drivers without resorting to xorg-edgers and bleeding. > - This PPA can have a "give be the latest bling" section, which is > basically automated builds of the latest drivers; and a "stable" > section that is basically a few days behind for people who want the > latest, but don't want to be beta testers. > - Lets add a hook to the graphical driver installer for "Pure upstream > nvidia driver", which would enable this PPA. (Actually the entire > wording of the drivers in that capplet is horrible, but let's save > that for another day). I don't think we can save that for another day. There are already more choices in the drivers applet then the average user knows what to do with. - And having the official drivers applet call a PPA doesn't seem like it would pass distro policies.. Why would the average user not choose - "Pure upstream nvidia driver"? It has a higher number after all *and* generally should give users the best experience. I'd propose that we just give users 3 visible options for every modern card: "Latest Stable Nvidia Driver (proprietary, tested)" - We don't have to release this same day..2 week lag time seems fine, we would need to get a MRE for this I think "Previous Stable Nvidia Driver Series (proprietary, tested, if you have trouble with Latest) - Should stay on the same series, basically like nvidia-346-updates now. "Nouveau drivers, (open source, tested, may have limited 3d acceleration) For non-modern cards it becomes easier, as you only need to offer the last series that supported that card. I believe the average user would be better suited with the latest stable then the previous series. Obviously we'd have to have a good test plan. I wonder if it's >> One last thing but aside from the topic slightly, the Steam package in >> Ubuntu is semi-broken for certain systems because the installer doesn't have >> the newest Steam runtime so it just straight up breaks on 15.04. > > I have found that in general when there's a new HWE release that Steam > is uninstallable for a certain period of time, but have not had a > chance to investigate this other than when I see people complaining > about it on reddit or whatever. Maybe it might be a good idea to put > steam on the list of things that get tested as part of the HWE > process? It might be useful if people gathered a list of bug reports > around this if anyone out there is reading this and knows more about > it. Agreed, I know of at least 2 people who couldn't get Steam installed in Ubuntu. I determined HWE was the culprit after the fact, but they had already moved on. A few example bugs: https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3728, https://github.com/ValveSoftware/steam-for-linux/issues/3730 It sounds like getting a bunch of gaming stakeholders in the same (virtual) room might help let us get good next steps on this. Thoughts? Thanks! Bryan -- ubuntu-desktop mailing list ubuntu-desktop@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-desktop