On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Scott Kitterman <ubu...@kitterman.com>wrote:
> On Tuesday, April 10, 2012 12:26:22 PM Robert Holtzman wrote: > > On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 10:26:50PM -0700, Dane Mutters wrote: > ... > > Oh,come on. Let's not start this again. What is it about the various > > Ubuntu lists that causes the Manners Police to fire up their computers > > to pop out how we unwashed masses should comport ourselves every time > > the discussion gets a little spirited? > > > > I assume the people on this list are adults, capable of reading things > > like "pinhead", "stupid", "moron", etc without getting the vapors and > > reaching for the smelling salts. > > Certainly. The delete key works great for such cases. If you want to > contribute to the Ubuntu community in a way that is going to be effective, > then > poorly written rants aren't the best way to go about it. > > Scott K > So, now that we've gotten some matters of conduct out of the way (we have, haven't we?), does anyone care to suggest what to do about making the GUI(s) of Ubuntu more usable for those who aren't OK with the current offerings? I think we've outlined the problem fairly well (thanks to those who have posted thus far), though further explanation would, of course, be welcome, should something be missing. Scott K, you've typically been a voice of reason on the Ubuntu mailing lists in the past; do you have any insights? Anyone else? I've seen this topic degenerate into protean grunts of derision several times before, but since nobody's yet outlined a reasonable and functional course of action, yet, I dare to say it's still worth talking about--should we all manage to keep our heads. I would very much like to have again an Ubuntu that I'm ecstatic about sharing with my friends and family, and I think that intelligently (and fearlessly) confronting the GUI problems we now face is a key step in obtaining that. I realize that since I'm not a developer, myself, I probably lack somewhat in the "credibility-and-sway department," but I'm hoping that insomuch as I (and others) present good reasoning and valid concerns, that can be overlooked. Thanks for your interest and comments. --Dane
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