On Wed, Feb 03, 2021 at 11:12:57AM +0000, Iain Lane wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 02:15:59AM -0800, Julian Andres Klode wrote:
> > Hi people,
> > 
> > I'd like to suggest that we start setting NotAutomatic: yes for the
> > proposed pocket with hirsute+1, such that things like SRU verification
> > will be easier, and all those people who enable proposed in sources.list
> > for I don't know what reasons don't get their systems destroyed as much.
> > 
> > This would obviously require some changes to pin the repo back up on the
> > builders, but I think it would be useful overall.
> 
> Sounds good to me.
> 
> I think the Launchpad support is still missing, although we started on 
> this several years ago. That will need to be picked up and finished off:
> 
>   https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad/+bug/1016776
> 
> That bug report talks about doing it pre-release (for devel only) but I 
> think I'm now in favour of doing it always, and the proposed 
> implementation in there would allow that. For devel, the main reason is 
> that I frequently come across users who have misunderstood what proposed 
> is for and manually enabled it themsleves, resulting in various degrees 
> of brokenness on their systems and bug reports that take developers' 
> time to triage and eventually close. These are not (always) people who 
> have updated from a previous release, where we could have had tools 
> disable -proposed for them, but also people who have explicitly turned 
> it on after installing a daily out of an attempt to help test the 
> upcoming release.

Just as a reminder ubuntu-release-upgrader does disable -proposed during
the upgrade to a development release of Ubuntu.

Cheers,
--
Brian Murray

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