On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:50:30AM -0500, James Dinkel wrote:
>> ..yet you're ignoring my request for a rationale.
> I have done nothing of the sort.  

I asked why you were do determined to make the install less useful by
default. Your reply was something like "I'm not very determined", which
doesn't answer my question at all. You want us to remove groff from the
standard install, even though you're going to install it yourself.  That
sure sounds to me like you find groff (probably actually man-db) to be
useful (otherwise, why would you be installing it), but you want to not
have it installed by default, thus making the default install less
useful. 

I see the usefulness of the minimal install, but this I think this is
getting ridiculous.  Ubuntu Server is -- after all -- supposed to be for
human beings, not for embedded systems.

> There seems to be a lot of praise for the "bare install" option in the
> installer, and no one has said anything against it.

Well, you seem to think that it's not bare enough?

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