Hello, I switched from Windows years ago - will never go back...here's my list of hardware that I use that always works:
e-machine AMD64 (2.4ghz) 1 GB Ram 160 GB HD Sata 1 M-Audio AudioPhile USB (version 1, 16 bit only) NVidia graphics chipset (imbedded) realtek embedded sound card (TURNED OFF!!) realtek NIC 100MB e-machine intel p4 2.4 ghz 1 gb ram 80 gb HD sata 1 M-Audio Audiophile PCI 24/96 intel graphics chipset realtek NIC 100MB asus MB realtek embedded sound card (TURNED OFF!!) Asus one netbook (LMAO!!) 2 core atom 1ghz cpu 1 GB ram 8 GB hd (5400 rpm - lmao) 8 GB sd (the bad transend sd cards) intel graphics chipset b43 wireless realtek NIC intel iMac (circa 2007) 1 GB Ram 160 GB sata 1 HD intel HDA sound card ATI Raedeon 1600XT intel NIC 1000GB b43 wireless I'm running 11.10 and 10.04 with low-latency kernels. I even use netjack alond with the sneaky ssh -X to link in with other PC's in the studio. Yes there is hope. Cheers, Daniel. On Sat, Mar 3, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Hartmut Noack <zettber...@linuxuse.de>wrote: > Am 03.03.2012 20:40, schrieb saearea-t...@yahoo.com: > > >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________**__ >>> Von: Hartmut Noack<zettber...@linuxuse.de> >>> An: >>> ubuntu-studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.com<ubuntu-studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> >>> Gesendet: 12:24 Samstag, 3.März 2012 >>> Betreff: Re: (rant) Is there any hope >>> >>> Am 03.03.2012 07:45, schrieb Jose H.: >>> >>>> So, if I ready correctly: >>>> >>> >>> It would be much easier to find out, what it is, that you read, if you >>> would not top-post but point us to what you are talking about. >>> >>> >>>> Ubuntu Studio is not, and will not be a productive audio recording and >>>> mixing environment. >>>> Why: >>>> 1) kernel issues >>>> 2) driver issues >>>> >>> >>> All this applies to Ubuntu Studio in some cases with some combinations >>> of hardware. It does not apply to many other Linux-Variants, including >>> Ubuntu-derivates like KXStudio. And as far as I am concerned, it does >>> not apply to my setup, that simply works perfectly well with Ubuntu plus >>> the KX-Layer. And so does my Laptop. And my USB-interface and my >>> Firewire-interface. >>> >>> Sorry folks, I really cant help but say: it works for me, just great. >>> It does for about 8 years now, with maybe a dozen different machines and >>> soundcards. And for some friends of mine it does so as well. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Options: >>>> 1) Use a new distro that some say is great ! ( a new clone of >>>> ubuntu/debian/etc.. ) - not really a good option >>>> >>> >>> Fedora, Suse, Debian vanilla: I made music with all of them, with bands, >>> for video everything everybody does with music on computers, all did >>> work OK for me. And yes: some did work for setups Ubuntu failed to >>> support the same as good. >>> >>> 2) Just install Windows and be able to do some of the stuff, >>>> maybe all >>>> you need - realistic option >>>> >>> >>> Do, as thou wishest but please consider to accept, that Linux did not >>> work for *you* and *your* setup. It does work for many others. >>> >>> 3) Wait until Linux has a decent Sound API - >>>> unrealistic >>>> option >>>> >>> >>> I do not really understand, what you mean by "a decent Sound API" Jack >>> and ALSA are consolidated and seam to work (last time I checked I found >>> a few hundred applications and devices that worked good with these >>> APIs). And everything else, that may exist in Linux regarding sound is >>> irrelevant for musicians (and it does not interfere anymore either). >>> >>> >>>> Well, that conclusion is sound with my own experience. >>>> >>> >>> *Your own* experience -- thanks for pointing to this. >>> >>> Ubuntu/Linux is >>>> supposed to be better than other OSs but definitely music production is >>>> not >>>> one of those fields in which it gets even to the minimum expected. >>>> >>> >>> In *Your own* experience it may be so. BTW: what other Linux-Variants >>> did you test? Fedora+CCRMA? Pure:Dyne? Suse? >>> >>> >>> >>>> Personally I think this is because we don't have a firm base to build. >>>> You >>>> can't expect to have great user apps if you can't even have a good OS >>>> layer. Even if you have great apps, for what if you can't get the OS to >>>> work !?. We have ZynAddSubFX, but your sound card just doesn't work ! >>>> >>> >>> What if you have Logic on your IBook running MacOSX but alas! Your >>> interface does not come with a driver compatible to that version of >>> MacOSX? >>> >>> Try Google, chances are, you find more than one thread discussing such >>> issues, lesser chance though, that such threads end with the conclusion, >>> that MacOSX would be entirely unusable for musicians.... >>> >>> >>> , why >>>> ?, maybe because pulseaudio, maybe because the driver, maybe because the >>>> kernel or maybe because the modules you load ?, or maybe because you are >>>> not tired of linux and you just want to play and forget about Ubuntu >>>> Studio. >>>> >>> >>> I recommend indeed to abandon Ubuntu Studio and try Fedora or Suse. >>> >>> best regards >>> >>> HZN >>> >>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> El 18 de febrero de 2012 06:04, teza<tezalp...@gmail.com> escribió: >>>> >>>> Hi >>>>> Should try.Tango Studio >>>>> Regards >>>>> Teza. >>>>> Le 15 févr. 2012 05:11, "Rick Green"<r...@aapsc.com> a écrit : >>>>> >>>>> for Ubuntu Studio as a productive audio recording and mixing >>>>> environment? >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Four years ago, I bought a Focusrite Saffire Pro 26 firewire >>>>>> interface, >>>>>> largely because it was listed as one of the best-supported by the >>>>>> ffado >>>>>> project. I loaded up a copy of UbuntuStudio 8.04LTS. The clean >>>>>> install >>>>>> wouldn't talk to the interface, but after I obtained a bleeding-edge >>>>>> copy >>>>>> of the ffado source from one of the developers, and recompiled >>>>>> locally, I >>>>>> was up and running. I've used that installation for every recording >>>>>> I've >>>>>> done since. For the most part it's stable, and I've learned to >>>>>> work-around >>>>>> its quirks >>>>>> When 10.04 came out, I thought I'd upgrade, thinking I'd like to >>>>>> see the >>>>>> latest enhancements to Ardour, and it might be more forgiving of the >>>>>> order >>>>>> I start up programs. But 10.04 wasn't stable enough to run jack for >>>>>> more >>>>>> than a few minutes before the xrun count went thru the roof. >>>>>> Since then, I've tried every new release, and the regressions are >>>>>> stacking up faster than ever. >>>>>> >>>>>> I recently did a clean install of 11.10 (amd64), and tonight gave >>>>>> it a >>>>>> first attempt with the firewire interface... >>>>>> >>>>>> With 8.04, I start ffado-mixer, and it automatically starts the >>>>>> ffado-dbus-server. With this one, it merely complains that the dbus >>>>>> server >>>>>> isn't running, so I'm forced to open a terminal and start it, then >>>>>> when I >>>>>> restart ffado-mixer, it tells me 'no supported devices found'. >>>>>> This isn't exactly true, for when I go to a terminal and run >>>>>> ffado-test >>>>>> ListDevices, it clearly finds my focusrite pro26IO on node 1. >>>>>> >>>>>> I launch qjackctl, open the setup window, and select the firewire >>>>>> driver, >>>>>> accepting all the defaults for now. When I attempt to start jack, it >>>>>> fails >>>>>> with a 'cannot connect to server as client' message. >>>>>> >>>>>> After many attempts and reboots, I discover that if I start qjackctl >>>>>> and >>>>>> start jack without attempting to start ffado-mixer or >>>>>> ffado-dbus-server >>>>>> first, then jack will actually start! (With 8.04, I HAD to start >>>>>> ffado-mixer first.) >>>>>> I launch Ardour, open a new session, and start to record two >>>>>> tracks of >>>>>> whatever audio happened to be playing on the stereo at the time. >>>>>> About 24 >>>>>> minutes later, just as I'm getting complacent with no xruns >>>>>> recorded(!), >>>>>> jack inexplicably dies, but qjackctl doesn't know it, so it is locked >>>>>> up, >>>>>> too. I ended up having to go back to the terminal and kill -9 >>>>>> everything >>>>>> jack-related I could find, then power down my interface, and power it >>>>>> back >>>>>> on, then restart qjackctl, and finally jack. Only then could I tell >>>>>> Ardour >>>>>> to reconnect and save the session, but for some reason Ardour's >>>>>> transport >>>>>> was messed up. I could move the playhead either directly, or with >>>>>> the |<< >>>>>> button, but the 'Big Clock' still showed the time at the end of the >>>>>> aborted >>>>>> capture, and the 'play' button or the spacebar had no effect. >>>>>> I closed Ardour, then went to stop jack and close qjackctl, and >>>>>> qjackctl >>>>>> threw messages about a client still connected (Ardour was already >>>>>> shut down >>>>>> at this point), and after I press the 'close anyway' button, then >>>>>> qjackctl >>>>>> itself refuses to quit cleanly, and I get a 'program not responding' >>>>>> message from the window manager, and I'm forced to go back to the >>>>>> terminal >>>>>> and resort to kill -9 again. >>>>>> >>>>>> The developers are over halfway into the 12.04 cycle now, so I >>>>>> don't see >>>>>> any point in submitting bug reports against 11.10 for all this. Have >>>>>> they >>>>>> gotten to the point of publishing any pre-builds of 12.04, and would >>>>>> it be >>>>>> any help to install that and submit bugs against 12.04pre- instead? >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Rick Green >>>>>> >>>>>> "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little >>>>>> temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." >>>>>> -Benjamin Franklin >>>>>> >>>>>> "As for our common defense, we reject as false the choice between our >>>>>> safety and our ideals." >>>>>> -President Barack Obama 20 Jan 2009 >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >>>>>> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ub**untu.com <http://ubuntu.com>< >>>>>> Ubuntu-Studio-users@**lists.ubuntu.com<Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>>>>> mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-****studio-users<https://lists.** >>>>>> ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/**ubuntu-studio-users<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >>>>> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.com<Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> >>>>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: >>>>> https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-users<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list >>> Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.com<Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> >>> Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** >>> mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-users<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users> >>> >>> >>> Hello Hartmut, >>> >>> could you post the setup of your systems that have always worked? >>> >> > PC > with Asus-Board and IntelQuadcore > NVidia-Graphics(prop. drivers) > MAudio Audiophile 2496 (does not work well with PA, perfectly with ALSA > and Jack. Since KXStudio bridges PA to Jack and starts Jack by default, > this is no issue to be solved by hand anymore)) > Presonus Firebox (trouble can be caused by some FW-Chipsets, works best > with the built-in of the ASUS) > MAudio mobile Pre USB (Jack needs to be forced to use 16bit) > > I use the MAudio mobile with a Thinkpad T60 also, works out of the box in > Fedora+CCRMA and Suse > > best regards > > HZN > > > > > > Maybe you have done that already and it is available somewhere in an >> archive or blog, please send me the URL. Thanks in advance. >> >>> >>> On a different topic. >>> I was getting very tired of listening to the fan noise of my laptop. I >>> had bought an external fan (ZALMAN) onto which I would place the laptop and >>> it was working quite well, but still: noise. Maybe the open source graphics >>> driver wasn't able to control the fan too well. >>> I looked for alternatives and considered several options e.g. server and >>> thin client setup, with a server in a different room. Or a tower PC with >>> extra quite fans. >>> >>> For a couple of days now, working on the PC has become a new sensation. >>> I found a completely fan-less system (http://www.caseking.de/shop/** >>> catalog/King-Mod-No-Noise-**HTPC-Gigabyte-AMD-APU-E350::**17711.html<http://www.caseking.de/shop/catalog/King-Mod-No-Noise-HTPC-Gigabyte-AMD-APU-E350::17711.html>). >>> I've added a Samsung SDD and a 21" LED monitor from AOC. Currently I am >>> running xubuntu 11.10. I haven't tweaked it yet (e.g. 3D graphics drivers, >>> desktop effects, etc.). I was looking for some nice temperature meter on >>> the desktop for xfce, but I think I need compiz for desktop effects first. >>> So far I have a terminal open with "watch sensors", that keeps me updated >>> on the temperature of the system. On the average it is about 50 degrees >>> Celcius, very similar to what I saw on my laptop with fans. >>> I learned that when using Gigabyte motherboards and trying to boot from >>> USB sticks is not easily accomplished. But thanks to others sharing their >>> solution, I was able to install xubuntu from a USB stick. >>> I am not sure whether the CPU power will be enough for more heavyweight >>> kind of work (e.g. video encoding), but general applications (office, >>> browser) are a breeze. >>> Standby and suspend worked out of the box. Apparently the network card: >>> Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet >>> controller (rev 06) can have problems with dual boot Windows (where Windows >>> puts it into sleep during shutdown and the linux driver not being able to >>> wake it up again - or something). I don't have dual boot at the moment, so >>> I cannot comment on that. But I have seen this behavior on a laptop (ASUS, >>> AMD E450) with dual boot . >>> ... >>> and still: no noise :) >>> >>> Just wanted to share. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Stefan >>> >>> >>> >>> > > -- > Ubuntu-Studio-users mailing list > Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.**ubuntu.com<Ubuntu-Studio-users@lists.ubuntu.com> > Modify settings or unsubscribe at: https://lists.ubuntu.com/** > mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-**studio-users<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-studio-users> >
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