On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:48 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> 2011/9/27 Juan J. <reidrac@>:
> > On Tue, 2011-09-27 at 08:28 +0100, Matthew Daubney wrote:
> >> [...]
> >> I'd suspect the average person on the end of the phone wouldn't be too
> >> scared of being talked through fixing it rather than average bloke on
> >> the end of th phone where you say "First go to the server and go to
> >> the console and do this" <- Easiest way to destroy sales ever.
> >
> > Being able to connect over SSH and fix things is priceless :)
> 
> Yesterday I spent nearly an hour explaining how to do port forwards to
> the head of IT at a company I deal with now and again so I could do
> this. That is hassle that is best avoided in all honesty.

If the head of IT had problems to do a port forward, something's
broken... and it's not Linux hehehe

> <snip>
> > I know people in a corporate environment that use RHEL basically because
> > the GUI tools. The have the feel of Linux power, but at the same time
> > it's just point & click in a dialog window.
> 
> This is more or less exactley my point really.

I couldn't stress enough the "optional" part in my previous message :) 

Actually the fact Ubuntu has a good reputation as Desktop OS plays
against the distribution in the server arena.

I've seen it a dozen of times, technical people discarding Ubuntu Server
and using Debian instead without providing a good reason for that but
"it's Ubuntu Server and I don't like it for servers".

We're obviously talking about different users here, but having desktop +
GUI tools by default in Ubuntu Server would be a no-go for the technical
userbase of Ubuntu.

Regards,

Juan



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