On 25/03/2012 10:18, alan c wrote:
On 23/03/12 22:11, scoundrel50a wrote:
On 23/03/2012 22:04, Alan Pope wrote:
On 23/03/12 21:45, Daniel Case wrote:
On 23 March 2012 21:21, Neil Greenwood
<neil.greenwood....@gmail.com> wrote:
They spent lots of money testing different behaviours
In my opinion, this is where the problem lies. The main people
Linux attracts, no matter which way you look at it, are hackers (in
the general sense).
That's exactly the problem we're trying to solve. Not asking the
target audience, but only asking hackers would be arrogant and
foolhardy. That's why we don't do that. We do listen to feedback, more
than you'd imagine, and decisions taken about design (for example) are
directly affected by user feedback. That doesn't happen for every
minute decision, but it happens.
We're also making it easier to buy computers with Ubuntu pre-installed
by talking to hardware vendors, to get it shipped from the factory.
It's hard work and takes a long time to do but we're getting there.
Which brings me back to my first point, who's going to advocate
Ubuntu if it annoys the hacker and makes life more difficult?
Those of us who do like it, do use it and believe it is the right path
for Ubuntu to take. If you don't then you have a number of options:-
* Install a different desktop environment on your Ubuntu system
* Join the discussion on the various Ubuntu development lists to
articulate how we're doing things wrong
* Test and file bugs when things don't work correctly
* Provide patches or programs to help Ubuntu& Unity to appeal
Personally I am in this for the long haul. Each 6 monthly release is
fantastic, but I'm thinking years away from now, and I'm happy to
persevere through the rough times because I think the long term goal
is worth it.
Frankly if people who are "inside" our community, "hackers" as you
call them aren't willing to get stuck in then Linux Mint, Debian,
Fedora and hundreds of other distros are -> that way. Enjoy!
Cheers,
oooh and who took your dummy away.......that was my reaction when I read
that.......but the thing is, you work for Canonical, so your going to
say that, whatever happens........what is frustrating is people on here
are giving an opinion and its being thrown aside is if it doesnt matter
because you have all this research into what people like, but people are
here telling you different, that has been going on since 11.04 people
have said they dont like it......and its not getting better its getting
worse.....
I think that is an unfair response. Alan has personally given me
unbelievable support over many years for my activities as a volunteer
advocate of FLOSS and Ubuntu.
What he says is sensible and quite proper, and I am delighted that he
has the courage to post on this group.
I am glad that he has been helpful to you, but this thread has shown a
different side, one that says, if you dont like it go elsewhere, is that
helpful, that is effectively telling people he has no time for them,
that isnt consistent.....if he keeps saying that people will start going
elsewhere......is that what you really want?
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