On 7 February 2013 11:59, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 07/02/13 11:57, Simon Greenwood wrote: > > > > > On 7 February 2013 11:52, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 07/02/13 11:11, Simon Greenwood wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On 7 February 2013 10:43, Colin Law <clan...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> >>> On 7 February 2013 10:31, Simon Greenwood <sfgreenw...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > .. >>> > On 7 February 2013 10:17, Gareth France <gareth.fra...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> > .. >>> >> Thanks Alan. I think the thing that gets to me is that aside from >>> whatever >>> >> I may choose to run on it I expect a machine I paid £300 for to run >>> properly >>> >> to begin with. None of these solutions address the problem. They more >>> sort >>> >> of side step it. I doubt I'm going to find the problem, I'll just >>> have to >>> >> avoid Packard Bell next time I upgrade. >>> >> >>> > >>> > In all honesty, that is the place to start. Packard Bell machines are >>> built >>> > to a price, and it's fairly likely that they need OS-based >>> accelerators to >>> > work properly. I'm not familiar with that processor but there are >>> probably >>> > features that aren't supported by Linux and require Windows-native >>> software, >>> > and the GPU will be integrated and underpowered. I've had similar >>> problems >>> > in the past with more expensive machines and have since learned my >>> lesson. >>> >>> The guy is not talking about just not getting the ultimate out of the >>> machine, he has problems such as "tonight it ground to a halt, the >>> hard drive access light went mad and the mouse stopped moving. Then it >>> moved in jerks and a variety of windows greyed out and came back again >>> over and over." That is a software problem of some sort. Something >>> is gobbling up his processor or/and his RAM. >>> >>> >> Yes, I agree, and as previously described, I have seen exactly this >> problem, and on what would seem to be a more powerful machine. In the first >> instance, disable Flash and see if that stops or reduces the CPU load. In >> my experience it will. However, it doesn't solve the problem, and this is >> where I came to a halt with trying to analyse it. It is likely to be a >> combination of the Flash plugin, Compiz and the physical hardware, possibly >> one that hasn't been identified before, so to get some progress, it needs >> to be documented. >> >> However, I believe my point still stands: for all the work done to >> maximise compatibility, there are always going to be machines that don't >> play for less obvious reasons, especially at the low cost end of the >> market, and the rule still should be that if you want to use a Linux >> desktop of any kind do a little bit of homework. There is the official >> compatibility wiki but if you get the model number of any laptop and put it >> into Google, someone will have attempted to run Linux on it and reported on >> it. >> >> s/ >> -- >> Twitter: @sfgreenwood >> "TBA are particularly glib" >> >> >> Just to update everyone flash blocker didn't manage 5 minutes before >> both Firefox and system monitor greyed out simply because I tried to close >> the monitor. As I'm typing this email Thunderbird keeps greying out and the >> text appears on the screen up to 45 seconds after I typed it. (So apologies >> for any spelling mistakes.) Rhythmbox is playing, well stuttering. That >> seems to be the biggest problem, I have noticed flash can be a drain but >> any media playing and it greatly increases the chance that the system will >> halt. >> >> > Try starting Firefox and Thunderbird in safe mode. It's Help > Restart > with addons disabled in both, and see how if that improves things. > > s/ > -- > Twitter: @sfgreenwood > "TBA are particularly glib" > > > I've switched to chromium to see what difference that makes. I'll try > restarting thunderbird and see what happens > > Chrome does perform a lot better, and I've actually switched to Opera as an email client as recent versions of Thunderbird have just plain struggled especially when starting up. s/ -- Twitter: @sfgreenwood "TBA are particularly glib"
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