a b wrote:
> So if Solaris *IS* *THE* operating system for *servers*, then that one
> thing should be done, and it should be done well.
Is it? What was the W in SUNW? What are the roots of Solaris? If we add 
Sun Ray Server, which is a Sun core technology relying on Solaris to the 
list, isn't Solaris a Server and a Desktop OS at the same time?

> It is quite obvious,
> even to an outsider like myself, that Sun as an organization doesn't have
> the resources of Apple computer to make it *ALL* be polished at the same
> time.
Of course not, nobody can be a master of all trades. That's why we rely 
on other projects like Gnome etc.

> And then, when that WORKS, then we can talk about the desktop
> (which, by that time, will be likely obsolete by means of AJAX and web
> browsers, so considerable effort and cost will be saved).
AJAX? Not sure if I want that...
>
> "Do one thing and do it well." People have tried to go against the 
> core UNIX(R)
> philosophy before, and failed, not because it's impossible or because 
> it can't be
> done, but because they thought they knew better.
Where do you draw the line? Some say that ZFS is not in line with the 
UNIX(R) philosophy, still it's a great piece of software. And it was not 
a "Toyota Kaizen" style of development. It was about "alte Z?pfe 
abschneiden", throwing obsolete things out, thinking about new ways.

> If Solaris is a server, and a damn fine one at that, let it be a 
> server to end users'
> multimedia content, instead of trying to *contort* Solaris into a 
> superdesktop, and
> not having enough resources to pull it off?
Solaris is a damn great Server OS, just like OpenSolaris will be 
someday. But OpenSolaris is also a fine Desktop OS for technical people. 
It can even be a great desktop for business users.

It was just yesterday, when I have visited a relatively large 
environment running Sun Ray Server on _OpenSolaris_ for business users 
_in production_. Impressive...

Thinks are moving very fast in the OpenSolaris space. You can see that, 
when you compare the 2008.05 release and the current development version.

You like philosophy? Here's an even older quote from the very early UNIX 
days :-) :

"Rome was not build in one day."
--John Haywood (1497-1580)

Things can never be done to satisfy everyone, and sometimes we have to 
agree to disagree.


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