Now that, "and one of the design goals of OSol was to be "linux developer
friendly"" is one of the major reasons why long term users and customers of
Solaris are turned off by OpenSolaris.If I wanted GNU/Linux, I can run the real
thing, I don't want or need a knock-off look-alike in OpenSolaris. (And if Ben
Rockwood's post "Frustration" on his blog is anything to go by, I am far from
being the only one.)There is a reason WHY Solaris 10 is king, and it's NOT
"being more like GNU/Linux".Plus, this is a different point and a completely
different tangent.For starters, the company doesn't (and if I know Sun/Oracle,
won't) admit that that particular implementation decision alienated a lot of
long-standing Solaris sysadmins, system engineers, and users (myself included,
obviously).
Another thing, and I keep repeating this like a broken record, the people that
will be attracted to that do not have the necessary experience and competence
to improve Solaris the way Sun engineering wanted or needed or even thought it
should be improved. Web development people and end-users don't know why that
device driver is core-dumping, or why that mutex lock is causing the NIC to
suddenly stop packets from flowing, or why /usr/gnu being first in PATH means
tremendous overhead for the rest of the existing Solaris installs to put back,
and what architectural problems putting stuff in /usr will create (if one is
not a distro/OS vendor).They are not the kind of people that will bring what
Solaris engineering dept. inside of Sun was hoping for. And the "best" thing
about that is, from ONNV flag days and various documents on project sites, one
can tell that even engineers inside of Sun are getting busted by this new
direction, yet nobody will own up to it.
I just loved reading Liane Praza's treatise on IPS, which shows, from the
inside of the organization, how much the Solaris engineers themselves are
struggling with it and all the architectural fallout.
To summarize: I disagree with making Solaris "linux developer friendly" as a
valid reason. For anything. These people aren't on Linux because Linux is
better, these people are on Linux because
a) they don't know any better
and
b) Sun failed to acknowledge that they needed to give the OS and the compilers
when they needed to do it, which lead to one Linux Torvalds developing Linux...
something that the organization is now STUCK contending with.
If anybody ever stops to ask, "wait! How did we find ourselves trying to
immitate Linux?", well there's your answer: just like now, failed to
acknowledge and do what needed done (which is to make Solaris better than,
instead of LIKE GNU/Linux).
Nobody likes knock-offs. And it's already coming back for payment. With a
vengeance.Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:14:54 +0100From: Gilles.Gravier at
Sun.COMSubject: Re: [ug-chosug] Getting Firefox 3.6.2 in your favorite language
on OpenSolaris!To: tripivceta at hotmail.comAh!I see what you mean. It's
relevant to Linux because MANY Linux developers plan for their stuff living in
/usr/local ... and one of the design goals of OSol was to be "linux developer
friendly". So we are trying to satisfy that goal.Gilles.
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