Musaazi
Actually it is good that you mention the open ness we have in Uganda today,
for I had just read a posting from Andrew kayiira, and actually Tumwebaze is
posting very shortly, that is true NRM democracy thanks to Musaazi.
Now help me here, how will Uganda Federalism cure tribalism which is still
rampant in Canada?
And I am not here to kill the discussion of federalism, all I am saying is
that let us do it right, let Ugandans be given a chance to discuss it, let
them get out of the camps let them be allowed to go home and live a normal
life then let all of us discuss it. If we reach an understanding then let us
take that document to an elected Uganda government.
Just a word of caution, if you see that other Ugandans are not involved, may
be it is not among the urgent issues on their table, have you thought about
that?
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 6:13 PM
Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
> I think you are insidiously mis-stating the facts when you say 'buganda
> asked for Kampala and Uganda Revenue Authority", as usual your statements
> are designed to incite and divide rather than unite and heal. Given the
> nonchalant attitude of the other regions on the issue, it appears Buganda
> has been forced to go it alone. Anyway i am not in support of federalism
> because Buganda is pushing for it, rather i see it as a remedy to most of
> our global problems as a nation such as, tribalism, nepotism and
despotism.
> This ought to be the focus, not killing the issue just because you have an
> axe to grind with Buganda and Museveni and in the process throwing away
the
> baby with the bathwater. For even allowing the dialogue to start the
> government should be applauded, their motives irrespective. Netters can
you
> remember another government in Uganda where dialogue on national issues
was
> so broad, free and unsensored, both at home and abroad? Where you have
free
> expression of ideas from both sides of an issue without feeling that your
> life was in eminent danger? If that isn't progress then i don't know what
> is.
>
> >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
> >Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2003 06:23:18 -0400
> >
> >Mwaami Musaazi
> >
> >You are using a wrong terminology here, what we have in Uganda today is
not
> >a negotiation of federalism, it is a Buganda attack on all national
> >institutions for her own benefit. An act that Ugandans have vehemently
> >refused. And I will give you examples (1) Mengo asked for Kampala which
it
> >knew was Uganda's capital and built by Ugandans. When Ugandans refused it
> >Mengo said if we do not get Kampala we do not take that federalism (2)
They
> >then asked for Uganda Revenue Authority, the government said No, Mengo
> >responded that with out it they do not want federalism. And I can go on
and
> >on with such examples of unrealistic requests. Can you tell me one
instance
> >where Buganda's request was refused and Mengo moved on? The formula is
> >either give us this or we are out of here.
> >Secondly I do not even think that Buganda has a right to negotiate with
NRM
> >on how to install this federalism, in fact the smart thing NRM should
have
> >done would have been to send Buganda back to Mengo and ask them to
> >negotiate
> >with other units, then all of them to come back to Uganda government with
a
> >finished document, for there is no way Uganda government can negotiate
with
> >pieces. But NRM would have done that if it was interested in putting real
> >federalism in Uganda, what NRM wants today is Buganda's vote for the sad
> >term, and if giving them a half baked federalism is the bait, so be it.
> >Remember you are dealing with very shrewd people.
> >Lastly some of us are wondering whether NRM has even the authority to
> >negotiate the fate of our nation. Remember they came to power by force of
> >arms they were never elected to come to power, and since then they failed
> >to
> >even turn into a political party, we still have a Resistance Council
which
> >to now we do not know who elected it, running our nation. And that
Council
> >understands its limitations that is why you see that they do not make
> >national decisions which will be internationally recognised, for they
know
> >that they will not. An example is the failure to establish a Uganda Army.
> >For they know that they can not commission officers. How can they turn a
> >nation from Unitary to federalism? Those are questions Mengo should have
> >asked before they claimed ownership on Uganda Revenue Authority. But hey
it
> >is all a fantasy!!
> >
> >Be well
> >Em
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:12 PM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
> >
> >
> > > Whoever was responsible for this editorial, does not understand the
> >concept
> > > of federalism. First of all how does he know that the final federal
> >system
> > > agreed upon will take the shape he is outlining (talk about puting the
> >cart
> > > before the horse). The final system will depend on negotiations which
> >will
> > > involve a lot of tradeoffs and compromises, it's not about 'winner
takes
> > > all'. Secondly, the Primeminister does not have to be the Kabaka
(there
> > > doesn't even need to be a prime minister). Federalism will help spread
> > > development around the country, new city capitals will spring up and
> >along
> > > with them jobs, institutions of learning and investements. Federalism
> >will
> > > also help to reduce the concentration of power at the center which
will
> >on
> > > the long run enhance democracy. As for taxes, well a tax sharing and
> > > allocation formular will be part of the negotiations, this is why i
said
> > > that the more the number of regions involved in the negotiations the
> >better
> > > for the whole country. Right now everybody is only hearing the Buganda
> > > proposal because other regions have not formaly and in an organized
> >fashion,
> > > put forward their proposals. The other regions should stop wining and
> >come
> > > with ideas, that is what democracy is all about, isn't it, democracy
> >lovers?
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >Subject: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy
> > > >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:35:19 +0000
> > > >
> > > >Editorial : newvision 26/8/2003
> > > >
> > > >'Federo' is a fantasy
> > > >
> > > >CABINET HAS decided to push for the lifting of term limits for the
> > > >presidency and a return to federo.
> > > >
> > > >However, a representative of the Buganda kingdom has responded that
the
> >two
> > > >issues should be delinked.
> > > >
> > > >He is right. The two issues are both too complex to consider
together.
> > > >
> > > >In particular the restoration of federo, or a federal kingdom, is
> >risky.
> > > >
> > > >Firstly, the dominance of the Buganda kingdom at independence created
a
> > > >political imbalance that destabilised the country.
> > > >
> > > >Secondly, a federal kingdom is not the most progressive form of
> >government.
> > > >As head of state, the Kabaka will appoint chiefs, ministers and
> >officials.
> > > >What will happen to the authority of democratically elected LC5 and
LC3
> > > >officials?
> > > >
> > > >Thirdly, is an additional layer of administration in Buganda even
> > > >necessary?
> > > >
> > > >Fourthly, this administration will have to be funded either by local
> > > >taxation or by increased taxation by the central government. If the
> >central
> > > >government pays, a peasant in West Nile might ask why his tax
payments
> >go
> > > >to the Kabaka of Buganda.
> > > >
> > > >Fifthly, how many Baganda truly want federo? Many elected LC
officials
> > > >favour loose cooperation under a charter, as Busoga is attempting,
but
> > > >oppose the idea of an administrative federal kingdom.
> > > >
> > > >Federo has become a fantasy, a dream for a return to the 1950s and
> >1960s
> > > >when people were more prosperous and society more orderly. But it is
> > > >impossible to turn the clock back. If the kingdom returns, Baganda
will
> > > >still find themselves in today's Uganda where the world coffee price
is
> > > >lower than the 1960s and KCC cannot fix the roads.
> > > >
> > > >It is not worth changing the Constitution for the sake of an
illusion.
> > > >
> > > >Published on: Tuesday, 26th August, 2003
> > > >
> > > >Email this article to a friend.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Mitayo Potosi
> > > >
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