Kasangwawo No not at all I opposed the RC system and publicly right from 1984/5 to today I have changed nothing. But that posting was intended to show the loop holes that happens in the postings you do. (You should thank me for stopping that sentence right there) Now that I have answered to your question, can you respond to my posting?
Em The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 9:02 AM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy > Mulindwa, > > what's your problem ? Are you now all of a sudden in support of the RC > system ? > > Kasangwawo > > > >From: "Mulindwa Edward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: ugnet_: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy > >Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2003 19:23:49 -0400 > > > >Kasangwawo > > > >"- You ask what will happen to LCs. Excuse me, where have you been ? There > >will be no LCs in Buganda under federal governance. We have our long-tested > >councils such as Ssaza, Muluka, Ggombolola councils. Consequently, there > >will be no additional layer of administration." > > > >Before you are excused I want to get this very clear. So you are asking NRM > >to give you Federalism, and you are telling NRM that if it gives you > >federalism, there will never be an RC system in Buganda/Uganda? So you are > >saying that the introduction of Federalism will be the death of the RC > >system? How did you decide this, is it information you have from the NRM > >secretariat or it is your own decision you have made through your Federism > >fantasy? > > > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2003 1:00 PM > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy > > > > > > > I must admit that I've never found the New Vision editorials brilliant, > >but > > > this one was one of the worst I've read. It was written from a position > >of > > > ignorance and assumptions. Here just a few questions/comments to the > >editor: > > > > > > - What sort of dominance are you talking about - political, economic or > >what > > > ? > > > > > > - Where did you get the idea that officials in the Federal State of > >Buganda > > > will be appointed by the Kabaka ? > > > > > > - You ask what will happen to LCs. Excuse me, where have you been ? > >There > > > will be no LCs in Buganda under federal governance. We have our > >long-tested > > > councils such as Ssaza, Muluka, Ggombolola councils. Consequently, there > > > will be no additional layer of administration. > > > > > > - Your fourth point does not make any sense. At the core of federalism > >is > > > the sharing of power between the Federal (central) government and State > > > (regional) governments. Underlying this responsibility is the fiscal > >issue > > > which is also part of the essence of the federal system of governance. > >So, > > > regardless of the nonsense emanating from the corner of the National > > > Political Commissar (oh, how reminiscent of the communist times), under > >a > > > true federal system, Buganda would collect taxes. > > > You seem to forget that under a unitary system as we have now, a peasant > >in > > > Buganda might also rightly ask why his tax payments go to Lango or > > > Jopadholaland. > > > > > > - I don't know where you got the information that Baganda don't like > >federo, > > > but the only record available (the Odoki comm. report) points to the > > > opposite, and it was done when the LC system was in existence. In any > >case, > > > LC officials do not make up the majority of the population. > > > > > > Dear Editor, federo, far from being a fantasy, is the future of a more > > > prosperous and peaceful Uganda. You only need to get educated about it. > > > > > > Kasangwawo. > > > > > > PS. > > > How come you do not give any comments on the other topic you started > >with - > > > the lifting of term limits for the presidency ? > > > > > > >From: "Mitayo Potosi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > >Subject: ugnet_: 'Federo' is a fantasy > > > >Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 17:35:19 +0000 > > > > > > > >Editorial : newvision 26/8/2003 > > > > > > > >'Federo' is a fantasy > > > > > > > >CABINET HAS decided to push for the lifting of term limits for the > > > >presidency and a return to federo. > > > > > > > >However, a representative of the Buganda kingdom has responded that the > >two > > > >issues should be delinked. > > > > > > > >He is right. The two issues are both too complex to consider together. > > > > > > > >In particular the restoration of federo, or a federal kingdom, is > >risky. > > > > > > > >Firstly, the dominance of the Buganda kingdom at independence created a > > > >political imbalance that destabilised the country. > > > > > > > >Secondly, a federal kingdom is not the most progressive form of > >government. > > > >As head of state, the Kabaka will appoint chiefs, ministers and > >officials. > > > >What will happen to the authority of democratically elected LC5 and LC3 > > > >officials? > > > > > > > >Thirdly, is an additional layer of administration in Buganda even > > > >necessary? > > > > > > > >Fourthly, this administration will have to be funded either by local > > > >taxation or by increased taxation by the central government. If the > >central > > > >government pays, a peasant in West Nile might ask why his tax payments > >go > > > >to the Kabaka of Buganda. > > > > > > > >Fifthly, how many Baganda truly want federo? Many elected LC officials > > > >favour loose cooperation under a charter, as Busoga is attempting, but > > > >oppose the idea of an administrative federal kingdom. > > > > > > > >Federo has become a fantasy, a dream for a return to the 1950s and > >1960s > > > >when people were more prosperous and society more orderly. But it is > > > >impossible to turn the clock back. If the kingdom returns, Baganda will > > > >still find themselves in today's Uganda where the world coffee price is > > > >lower than the 1960s and KCC cannot fix the roads. > > > > > > > >It is not worth changing the Constitution for the sake of an illusion. > > > > > > > >Published on: Tuesday, 26th August, 2003 > > > > > > > >Email this article to a friend. > > > > > > > > > > > >Mitayo Potosi > > > > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ > > > >Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > > > >http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------- > > > >This service is hosted on the Infocom network > > > >http://www.infocom.co.ug > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > > Tired of spam? 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