you will not distract me from the issue with your usual diversionary tactics - I know them too well. After making wild allegations about the late Prof. Lule, you asked to be filled in, which I kindly did. Now you are saying you'll leave it at that (your concoctions) ! Of course you have nothing to add; your lies have been exposed. You are a pathological liar and I'm not giving you any 'Goddam break' until you stop telling lies. If you don't know something, its better you shut up instead of inventing stuff you can't even substantiate.
I repeat here that Prof Lule never drank alcohol, therefore he couldn't have died of alcohol poisoning as you are claiming. If you have proof to the contrary then provide it. Otherwise you better shut up about this issue and move on to stuff you're used to like the 'real government of Uganda' trash.
Kasangwawo
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:58 -0500
Mwaami Kasangwawo
You must be ashamed of your self. For by the comments you guys make in these
forums are the same we judge you by. I am not going to sit here today and
put up the history of a past president, and I will live it at where I left
it. I do not have the time to waste with Kasangwawo who claims to have
teetotalled with the past president. Your claim that he never drunk in his
entire life shows how close you were with the man. His family suing me, hum
that is a good one, for you are setting a task to a family which is entirely
following dad's steps faithfully. Oh you do not believe me? Ask NRM which
proffesionalised in hiring and firing them (As it was playing the fracas of
pleasing Baganda). Give me a Goddam break.
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> Mulindwa,
>
> Time out ! Stop your lies !
>
> You again seem to think that if you keep on repeating your lies they'll
> become the truth. Your belief that since your hero is alcoholic then all
the
> other former presidents must have been alcoholics is just bogus. First you
> make all sorts of claims and then you ask to be filled in, implying that
you
> actually don't know what you are talking about. Well, I'll fill you in and
> quench your ignorance.
>
> Professor Lule (RIP) was a teetotaler. The man never drank alcohol in his
> whole life. He suffered for a long time from leukaemia, to which he
finally
> succumbed. For you to go around peddling such barefaced lies about him is
> despicable. And you call that putting sense into the discussion ! His
family
> should sue you for defamation.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> >Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
> >
> >Mwaami Musaazi
> >
> >You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this posting I see
> >nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
> >Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I quote
> >"I'm
> >asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man." Now I delude
> >my
> >self that you are referring to my calling our past president a drunkard.
> >Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda? May be I
> >have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a thing on
> >Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the then
> >prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for he did.
Why
> >were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was "a Muganda"?
> >
> >And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this discussion, if
> >my
> >calling "Professor" Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in his
body,
> >is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do not know,
> >do
> >the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any body who
> >sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past president,
and
> >you can only cover it with "You hate Baganda" Mwaami Musaazi be sensible
> >for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
> >
> >Em
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:01 AM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> >
> >
> > > My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is astonishing...anyway,
> > > personally i'm ok with that, you are entiltled as you have said to
your
> > > "beliefs" however you should also know that what you said cuts both
> >ways.
> >In
> > > other wards there is no need for an inquiry into Luwero 'cos it is a
> > > "belief" by... i don't know which tribe now...you know these tribal
> >jargons
> > > more than i, besides if there was an inquiry, i don't think the UPC
will
> > > prevail but then that is i guess a "belief". Secondly the premise to
my
> > > arguments is one of perception. If you noticed all the postings i put
up
> >are
> > > opinions of Ugandans and the international community, I can't say UPC
> >should
> > > be taken to court because they are stupid enough to have a dictator
with
> > > alleged criminal links as head, that is UPC's problem. Already you can
> >see
> > > that the party is begining to crumble, as the rank and file begin to
> >feel
> > > the impact of Obote's baggage not only to the party's image but to
there
> >own
> > > political futures.
> > >
> > > This is my argument, i believe that the UPC can redeem itself, but it
> >has
> >to
> > > be ready to break away from it's past evils, Mulindwa your argument
(and
> > > Matek's) is akin to an Ostrich burying it's head in a hole while
leaving
> >the
> > > rest of it's body exposed and feeling that it is hidden (nobody can
see
> >it).
> > > Trust me it doesn't work that way, as you will soon find out. Obote
and
> >you
> > > his supporters will have to defend that stinky record, not in Canada
or
> > > America but in Uganda and ultimately in Buganda and i can hadly wait
to
> >see
> > > Mulindwa's "Buganda 101" political theory work for him. Finaly...ALL
> > > POLITICS IS LOCAL that is international politics 000.....One last
thing
> >just
> > > out of curiosity is Obote not an alcholic himself and can you please,
> > > Mulindwa give us Obote's EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, FROM FIRST DEGREE
> >UP
> > > (IF HE HAS A DEGREE). I'm asking since you had the indignity of
> >insulting
> >a
> > > dead man.
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > >Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:15:11 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Matek
> > > >
> > > >I think I need to come in here for you are wrong.
> > > >
> > > >We do not need to take UPC to court, the fact is that UPC has a lot
of
> > > >skeletons, that is enough. And we must accept it for it is a belief.
> >How
> > > >dare you ask NRM to take UPC to court? Who told you that a belief can
> >be
> > > >challenged in a court of law? And that standing order has been on
> >Uganda
> > > >books for a very long time, for it has covered several statements,
that
> >I
> > > >will list for you to prove how it has worked very successfully.
> > > >1) The elections that brought UPC 2 to power was rigged
> > > >2) Obote poisoned Muteesa through a Langi (Oops Muganda) girl
> > > >3) The people in Luwero were killed by UNLA
> > > >4) Museveni did not kill any body in Luwero
> > > >5) UPC is anti Buganda
> > > >6) Obote hates Baganda
> > > >7) Obote said that a good Muganda is a dead one
> > > >8) UPC ended political partys in Uganda
> > > >9) President Lule was a Professor
> > > >10) Did you see the skulls in Luwero? All those people were killed by
> >UNLA.
> > > >(And never allow an inquirely for we know it already.
> > > >11) Ssabasajja does not have a Rwandese son and that son can not lead
> > > >Buganda if Ssabasaja moves on.
> > > >12 Do you remember president Y. Lule? No he was not an alcoholic and
he
> >did
> > > >not die of alcohol poisoning.
> > > >
> > > >Do I need to go on?
> > > >
> > > >So we do not need courts to solve a belief. Well come to Buganda
> >Politics
> > > >101.
> > > >
> > > >Em
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:45 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > In a message dated 11/3/2003 9:16:16 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Not only that Mr. Nyange, it is also a matter between all
Ugandans
> >and
> > > >UPU.
> > > > UPC has a lot of skelletons in her cupboard and is yet to face
up
> >with
> > > >her
> > > > ugly past which includes taking responsibility for her past
ills,
> > > >after
> > > > which a new chapter can be opened, for her future.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Absolute nonsense rubbish .. Total hullabaloo... to put it mildly.
> >If,
> > > >as you say, the UPC has a lot of "skeletons" in her cupboard, then
the
> >most
> > > >civilized move on your part (I mean the movement) would be to charge
> >the
> > > >UPC for such crimes before the Courts in Uganda. Right
> >netters......what
> >is
> > > >our friend waiting for?...
> > > >
> > > > Let the courts expose the said "skeleton" for the people of
Uganda
> >to
> > > >see . Of course you do realize that such move would require that you
> >must
> > > >have impeccable evidence which you can present to the judges in the
> >court
> > > >of law.
> > > >
> > > > On the contrary the UPC is ready to take all you people (NRM goons
> > > >rather..) to courts and provide proof that the movement and YOweri
> >Museveni
> > > >has carried out numerous atrocities against Ugandans in Luwero and
now
> >in
> > > >Northern and Eastern Uganda.
> > > >
> > > > Matek
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:51:04 -0500
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > The writer should realise that this matter is between Buganda
> >and
> > > >UPC.
> > > > >Its not Acholi Vs Buganda. UPC was ruling and its armed wing\
> >army
> > > >was UNLA
> > > > >whose majority happened to be Acholi. It was the policy of UPC
to
> > > >carry out
> > > > >the massacre described in the article, not Acholi's policy. It
> >was
> > > >the
> > > > >policy of the UPC piliticians their armed wing, not the
ordinary
> > > >Acholis.
> > > > >As I've always said, the dialog should be between Baganda
leaders
> >and
> > > >UPC.
> > > > >
> > > > >Ssenyange
> > > > >-------------------------------------------------
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >>From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >>Subject: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > >>Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0500
> > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >>...................................................... Despite
> >all
> > > >of
> > > > >>these mitigating factors, many Ugandans hold mainly the Acholi
> > > >responsible
> > > > >>for the Luwero atrocities because of the high proportion of
> >Acholis
> > > >in the
> > > > >>armed forces at that time. While almost all Acholis deny such
> > > > >>responsibility, a few Acholi elders nonetheless assert that
the
> >time
> > > >has
> > > > >>come for a dialogue with Baganda leaders, with the aim of
> > > >reconciling what
> > > > >>had occurred there. In a way which way difficult to pinpoint,
> >they
> > > >believe
> > > > >>such a dialogue might help create conditions to end the
current
> >war
> > > >in
> > > > >>Acholi, even though the present conflict does not appear to
> >directly
> > > > >>involve the Baganda people. A few Acholi were said to believe
> >that
> > > >the
> > > > >>spirits of some Luwero victims â?" for example, of a pregnant
> > > >Baganda woman
> > > > >>who was killed and mutilated in a particularly unspeakable way
> >â?"
> > > >are
> > > > >>exacting revenge by causing or prolonging the current Acholi
> >war.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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