When I stated the fact on Lule, you came back that I have a hatred on Buganda and Baganda.
No, I never did. Check the thread again !
WHERE IS THE PROOF that Prof Lule was a drunkard ? The ones sending you the responses you post here should raise their hands and admit that they actually don't know what they are talking about, similar to the 'accountability is a system' rubbish.
Kasangwawo
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero Date: Fri, 7 Nov 2003 17:41:57 -0500
Kasangwawo
When I stated the fact on Lule, you came back that I have a hatred on Buganda and Baganda. Today you are posting that We are used to our drunken party President, whom I think you are referring to Obote. So with that sentence, the fact that Obote is a Northerner you are as well hating the Northerners and the entire North. Thank you for making that public.
Good bye
Em
The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message ----- From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 1:45 PM Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> Oooh I'm really intimidated by your threats !!
>
> Look, Mulindwa and gang, I'm not going to be diverted so easily. We are
not
> talking about his family's history (which I also know very well by the
way),
> but about the man himself. You are so used to your drunken party
president,
> you imagine that everybody else is the same. Fact is, Prof Lule never
drank
> alcohol and he never died from alcohol poisoning. If you have proof to the
> contrary, present it, otherwise just shut it.
>
> Kasangwawo
>
> >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> >Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 18:59:57 -0500
> >
> >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> >
> >"I repeat here that Prof Lule never drank alcohol, therefore he couldn't
> >have died of alcohol poisoning as you are claiming. If you have proof to
> >the
> >contrary then provide it"
> >
> >I wish and hope that you fully understand what you are asking for. A
> >working
> >head would have started by wondering why Lule and non other, but that is
> >not
> >you. And I fully respect your decision to stay dam. Keep on pulling this
> >one
> >and you will get what you want, I will put the entire family history on
the
> >net. Just keep on pushing on issues you are ignorant about, thinking that
I
> >left it where I left it for I had nothing better to do with my time.
> >
> >
> >Em
> >
> > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:07 PM
> >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> >
> >
> > > Mulindwa,
> > >
> > > you will not distract me from the issue with your usual diversionary
> >tactics
> > > - I know them too well. After making wild allegations about the late
> >Prof.
> > > Lule, you asked to be filled in, which I kindly did. Now you are
saying
> > > you'll leave it at that (your concoctions) ! Of course you have
nothing
> >to
> > > add; your lies have been exposed. You are a pathological liar and I'm
> >not
> > > giving you any 'Goddam break' until you stop telling lies. If you
don't
> >know
> > > something, its better you shut up instead of inventing stuff you can't
> >even
> > > substantiate.
> > >
> > > I repeat here that Prof Lule never drank alcohol, therefore he
couldn't
> >have
> > > died of alcohol poisoning as you are claiming. If you have proof to
the
> > > contrary then provide it. Otherwise you better shut up about this
issue
> >and
> > > move on to stuff you're used to like the 'real government of Uganda'
> >trash.
> > >
> > > Kasangwawo
> > >
> > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > >Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2003 16:29:58 -0500
> > > >
> > > >Mwaami Kasangwawo
> > > >
> > > >You must be ashamed of your self. For by the comments you guys make
in
> > > >these
> > > >forums are the same we judge you by. I am not going to sit here today
> >and
> > > >put up the history of a past president, and I will live it at where I
> >left
> > > >it. I do not have the time to waste with Kasangwawo who claims to
have
> > > >teetotalled with the past president. Your claim that he never drunk
in
> >his
> > > >entire life shows how close you were with the man. His family suing
me,
> >hum
> > > >that is a good one, for you are setting a task to a family which is
> > > >entirely
> > > >following dad's steps faithfully. Oh you do not believe me? Ask NRM
> >which
> > > >proffesionalised in hiring and firing them (As it was playing the
> >fracas
> >of
> > > >pleasing Baganda). Give me a Goddam break.
> > > >
> > > >Em
> > > >
> > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "jonah kasangwawo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > >Sent: Wednesday, November 05, 2003 12:03 PM
> > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Mulindwa,
> > > > >
> > > > > Time out ! Stop your lies !
> > > > >
> > > > > You again seem to think that if you keep on repeating your lies
> >they'll
> > > > > become the truth. Your belief that since your hero is alcoholic
then
> >all
> > > >the
> > > > > other former presidents must have been alcoholics is just bogus.
> >First
> > > >you
> > > > > make all sorts of claims and then you ask to be filled in,
implying
> >that
> > > >you
> > > > > actually don't know what you are talking about. Well, I'll fill
you
> >in
> > > >and
> > > > > quench your ignorance.
> > > > >
> > > > > Professor Lule (RIP) was a teetotaler. The man never drank alcohol
> >in
> > > >his
> > > > > whole life. He suffered for a long time from leukaemia, to which
he
> > > >finally
> > > > > succumbed. For you to go around peddling such barefaced lies about
> >him
> > > >is
> > > > > despicable. And you call that putting sense into the discussion !
> >His
> > > >family
> > > > > should sue you for defamation.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kasangwawo
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > >Date: Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:43:00 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Mwaami Musaazi
> > > > > >
> > > > > >You see I respond to you when ever you make sense, but this
posting
> >I
> > > >see
> > > > > >nothing to respond to. I am sorry.
> > > > > >Except you have made a remark that I feel I must clear out, and I
> >quote
> > > > > >"I'm
> > > > > >asking since you had the indignity of insulting a dead man." Now
I
> > > >delude
> > > > > >my
> > > > > >self that you are referring to my calling our past president a
> > > >drunkard.
> > > > > >Now why did you think that I mentioned that for I hate Baganda?
May
> >be
> > > >I
> > > > > >have a thing on Moslems, for he was a Moslem. My be I have a
thing
> >on
> > > > > >Moslems who turn Christians for they want to be enrolled in the
> >then
> > > > > >prestigious Buddo, which would not at a time take a Moslem, for
he
> >did.
> > > >Why
> > > > > >were you only concerned for I raised the issue for he was "a
> >Muganda"?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >And lastly Mwaami Musaazi, let us put some sense into this
> >discussion,
> > > >if
> > > > > >my
> > > > > >calling "Professor" Lule a drunkard who dies of Alcohol poison in
> >his
> > > >body,
> > > > > >is not a true fact, please by all means state so. And if you do
not
> > > >know,
> > > > > >do
> > > > > >the civilized thing and shut the hell up. For it must bother any
> >body
> > > >who
> > > > > >sees that you are concerned by a comment done against a past
> >president,
> > > >and
> > > > > >you can only cover it with "You hate Baganda" Mwaami Musaazi be
> > > >sensible
> > > > > >for once, what did Lule die from? Feel us in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Em
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > > >From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 10:01 AM
> > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > My gosh Mulindwa, your hatred for Buganda is
> >astonishing...anyway,
> > > > > > > personally i'm ok with that, you are entiltled as you have
said
> >to
> > > >your
> > > > > > > "beliefs" however you should also know that what you said cuts
> >both
> > > > > >ways.
> > > > > >In
> > > > > > > other wards there is no need for an inquiry into Luwero 'cos
it
> >is
> >a
> > > > > > > "belief" by... i don't know which tribe now...you know these
> >tribal
> > > > > >jargons
> > > > > > > more than i, besides if there was an inquiry, i don't think
the
> >UPC
> > > >will
> > > > > > > prevail but then that is i guess a "belief". Secondly the
> >premise
> >to
> > > >my
> > > > > > > arguments is one of perception. If you noticed all the
postings
> >i
> > > >put
> > > >up
> > > > > >are
> > > > > > > opinions of Ugandans and the international community, I can't
> >say
> > > >UPC
> > > > > >should
> > > > > > > be taken to court because they are stupid enough to have a
> >dictator
> > > >with
> > > > > > > alleged criminal links as head, that is UPC's problem. Already
> >you
> > > >can
> > > > > >see
> > > > > > > that the party is begining to crumble, as the rank and file
> >begin
> >to
> > > > > >feel
> > > > > > > the impact of Obote's baggage not only to the party's image
but
> >to
> > > >there
> > > > > >own
> > > > > > > political futures.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is my argument, i believe that the UPC can redeem itself,
> >but
> > > >it
> > > > > >has
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > be ready to break away from it's past evils, Mulindwa your
> >argument
> > > >(and
> > > > > > > Matek's) is akin to an Ostrich burying it's head in a hole
while
> > > >leaving
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > rest of it's body exposed and feeling that it is hidden
(nobody
> >can
> > > >see
> > > > > >it).
> > > > > > > Trust me it doesn't work that way, as you will soon find out.
> >Obote
> > > >and
> > > > > >you
> > > > > > > his supporters will have to defend that stinky record, not in
> >Canada
> > > >or
> > > > > > > America but in Uganda and ultimately in Buganda and i can
hadly
> >wait
> > > >to
> > > > > >see
> > > > > > > Mulindwa's "Buganda 101" political theory work for him.
> >Finaly...ALL
> > > > > > > POLITICS IS LOCAL that is international politics 000.....One
> >last
> > > >thing
> > > > > >just
> > > > > > > out of curiosity is Obote not an alcholic himself and can you
> > > >please,
> > > > > > > Mulindwa give us Obote's EDUCATIONAL QUALIFICATIONS, FROM
FIRST
> > > >DEGREE
> > > > > >UP
> > > > > > > (IF HE HAS A DEGREE). I'm asking since you had the indignity
of
> > > > > >insulting
> > > > > >a
> > > > > > > dead man.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 22:15:11 -0500
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Matek
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >I think I need to come in here for you are wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >We do not need to take UPC to court, the fact is that UPC has
a
> >lot
> > > >of
> > > > > > > >skeletons, that is enough. And we must accept it for it is a
> > > >belief.
> > > > > >How
> > > > > > > >dare you ask NRM to take UPC to court? Who told you that a
> >belief
> > > >can
> > > > > >be
> > > > > > > >challenged in a court of law? And that standing order has
been
> >on
> > > > > >Uganda
> > > > > > > >books for a very long time, for it has covered several
> >statements,
> > > >that
> > > > > >I
> > > > > > > >will list for you to prove how it has worked very
successfully.
> > > > > > > >1) The elections that brought UPC 2 to power was rigged
> > > > > > > >2) Obote poisoned Muteesa through a Langi (Oops Muganda) girl
> > > > > > > >3) The people in Luwero were killed by UNLA
> > > > > > > >4) Museveni did not kill any body in Luwero
> > > > > > > >5) UPC is anti Buganda
> > > > > > > >6) Obote hates Baganda
> > > > > > > >7) Obote said that a good Muganda is a dead one
> > > > > > > >8) UPC ended political partys in Uganda
> > > > > > > >9) President Lule was a Professor
> > > > > > > >10) Did you see the skulls in Luwero? All those people were
> >killed
> > > >by
> > > > > >UNLA.
> > > > > > > >(And never allow an inquirely for we know it already.
> > > > > > > >11) Ssabasajja does not have a Rwandese son and that son can
> >not
> > > >lead
> > > > > > > >Buganda if Ssabasaja moves on.
> > > > > > > >12 Do you remember president Y. Lule? No he was not an
> >alcoholic
> > > >and
> > > >he
> > > > > >did
> > > > > > > >not die of alcohol poisoning.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Do I need to go on?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >So we do not need courts to solve a belief. Well come to
> >Buganda
> > > > > >Politics
> > > > > > > >101.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >Em
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The Mulindwas Communication Group
> > > > > > > >"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy"
> > > > > > > > Groupe de communication Mulindwas
> > > > > > > >"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie"
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 9:45 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > In a message dated 11/3/2003 9:16:16 PM Eastern Standard
> >Time,
> > > > > > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Not only that Mr. Nyange, it is also a matter between
all
> > > >Ugandans
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >UPU.
> > > > > > > > UPC has a lot of skelletons in her cupboard and is yet
to
> >face
> > > >up
> > > > > >with
> > > > > > > >her
> > > > > > > > ugly past which includes taking responsibility for her
> >past
> > > >ills,
> > > > > > > >after
> > > > > > > > which a new chapter can be opened, for her future.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Absolute nonsense rubbish .. Total hullabaloo... to put it
> > > >mildly.
> > > > > >If,
> > > > > > > >as you say, the UPC has a lot of "skeletons" in her cupboard,
> >then
> > > >the
> > > > > >most
> > > > > > > >civilized move on your part (I mean the movement) would be
to
> > > >charge
> > > > > >the
> > > > > > > >UPC for such crimes before the Courts in Uganda. Right
> > > > > >netters......what
> > > > > >is
> > > > > > > >our friend waiting for?...
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Let the courts expose the said "skeleton" for the people
> >of
> > > >Uganda
> > > > > >to
> > > > > > > >see . Of course you do realize that such move would require
> >that
> > > >you
> > > > > >must
> > > > > > > >have impeccable evidence which you can present to the judges
in
> >the
> > > > > >court
> > > > > > > >of law.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On the contrary the UPC is ready to take all you people
(NRM
> > > >goons
> > > > > > > >rather..) to courts and provide proof that the movement and
> >YOweri
> > > > > >Museveni
> > > > > > > >has carried out numerous atrocities against Ugandans in
Luwero
> >and
> > > >now
> > > > > >in
> > > > > > > >Northern and Eastern Uganda.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Matek
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >From: "ssenya nyange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > > > > >Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:51:04 -0500
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > The writer should realise that this matter is between
> > > >Buganda
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >UPC.
> > > > > > > > >Its not Acholi Vs Buganda. UPC was ruling and its armed
> >wing\
> > > > > >army
> > > > > > > >was UNLA
> > > > > > > > >whose majority happened to be Acholi. It was the policy
> >of
> > > >UPC
> > > >to
> > > > > > > >carry out
> > > > > > > > >the massacre described in the article, not Acholi's
> >policy.
> > > >It
> > > > > >was
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >policy of the UPC piliticians their armed wing, not the
> > > >ordinary
> > > > > > > >Acholis.
> > > > > > > > >As I've always said, the dialog should be between
Baganda
> > > >leaders
> > > > > >and
> > > > > > > >UPC.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Ssenyange
> > > > > > > > >-------------------------------------------------
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>From: "emmanuel musaazi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > >>Subject: ugnet_: Obote2 and Luwero
> > > > > > > > >>Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2003 16:27:07 -0500
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >>......................................................
> > > >Despite
> > > > > >all
> > > > > > > >of
> > > > > > > > >>these mitigating factors, many Ugandans hold mainly
the
> > > >Acholi
> > > > > > > >responsible
> > > > > > > > >>for the Luwero atrocities because of the high
proportion
> >of
> > > > > >Acholis
> > > > > > > >in the
> > > > > > > > >>armed forces at that time. While almost all Acholis
deny
> > > >such
> > > > > > > > >>responsibility, a few Acholi elders nonetheless assert
> >that
> > > >the
> > > > > >time
> > > > > > > >has
> > > > > > > > >>come for a dialogue with Baganda leaders, with the aim
> >of
> > > > > > > >reconciling what
> > > > > > > > >>had occurred there. In a way which way difficult to
> > > >pinpoint,
> > > > > >they
> > > > > > > >believe
> > > > > > > > >>such a dialogue might help create conditions to end
the
> > > >current
> > > > > >war
> > > > > > > >in
> > > > > > > > >>Acholi, even though the present conflict does not
appear
> >to
> > > > > >directly
> > > > > > > > >>involve the Baganda people. A few Acholi were said to
> > > >believe
> > > > > >that
> > > > > > > >the
> > > > > > > > >>spirits of some Luwero victims â?" for example, of a
> > > >pregnant
> > > > > > > >Baganda woman
> > > > > > > > >>who was killed and mutilated in a particularly
> >unspeakable
> > > >way
> > > > > >â?"
> > > > > > > >are
> > > > > > > > >>exacting revenge by causing or prolonging the current
> >Acholi
> > > > > >war.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >>
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