I'dn't trust the UPC further than I can throw them -- which is not very far; nor give their lies any currency.
Unfortunately, while DP undergoes its re-birth, the UPC are lurching onto the very ideas we have long advocated, especially federalism based on economically viable units/states -- ideas that the UPC have in the past worked tirelessly to destroy, hinder and/or otherwise obsfucate.
It is encumbate (sp) upon all of us to keep remindind Ugandans, especially the UB40s, on UPC's well-documented role in causing chaos in Uganda on two separate occassions: Obote I and Obote II.
UPC is our enemy, nor matter how they package themselves. Remember Naakulabye! Remember the infamous killing fields of 'Luweero Triangle'! Remember 'Panda Gari'! Remember 1966!, etc, etc. Never, never again!
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--Party believes Buganda Kingdom should be granted federal status
By Geresom Musamali
THE Uganda People’s Congress (UPC) yesterday expressed support for a more empowered Kabaka.
“Our position has shifted from that of 1967 back to 1962, with a slight difference. We now have an executive president and so we cannot have an executive Kabaka as well.
“But we think a federal state of Buganda, with powers to raise funds, should be created,” UPC presidential policy commission (PPC) chairman Dr. James Rwanyarare said.
He was addressing the weekly press briefing.
The Kabaka’s absolute powers were first reduced in the 1900 Buganda Agreement and further cut back in 1955.
In 1967, the first UPC government led by Dr. Apollo Milton Obote abolished the kingdom.
The Movement, however, reinstated only the cultural aspects of the kingdom in 1993.
Kabaka Ronald Muwenda Mutebi on Saturday decried his powerlessness, saying he could not mobilise his people for development because of the restriction to cultural functions only.
Rwanyarare said UPC was against the fragmentation of Uganda into unsustainable local government units that were even unable to raise their own revenue.
He said the party supported the creation of viable federal units.
Dr. Kilama Moro, a member of the PPC, later told The New Vision that UPC was interested in a federal arrangement that involved the whole of Uganda, unlike in 1962 where Buganda held a special federal status in the country.
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Published on: Thursday, 19th February, 2004
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WBK,
You are very amusing!!
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Mr. Oryema:
With all due respect, what is divide and rule?
You have a vision-I still assume of a federal vision where Northern is one united entity. Fair enough. We have been realistic and pragmatic to accept the obvious that there will never be, I repeat never will be, unity in
Did you read the letter written by Mr. Ayoo that was posted on Fedsnet on the killings in Lira? The author was blunt: the killers were not Kony's LRA bandits but Bamuzze's band of killers camped in some place. In other words, the killers were from
I have said so and I will say it again: Dr. Kapa and you are suffering from too much political correctness. You refuse to see the obvious for fear of being seen as dividing Northern or its people. You do not need to be so politically correct. The history is there. The record speaks for itself. The unity in
Dr. Kapa has written eloquently about the characterization presumably of the North and its people by people from the South. It turns out that “ethnofunctionalism” the notion that the people from the North and to some extent the North East were naturally martial, and thus the only one fit for the military was not only peddled by colonials. It was still being argued after independence long after the colonials had left.
Listen to H. Makmot
“some sections of the population just cannot fight…even if they are soldiers” (H. Makmot in
H. Makmot was perpetuating the colonial myth that “southerners” were too short for [military/police] service. Makmot was obviously very proud of the colonial labels and too happy to perpetuate the myth.
I noticed something on this list, most people from the South or so called Southerners are scared to death to refute such nonsense for fear of offending some members. I have no time for that kind of political correctness.
I remember telling off some big shots at The Monitor and their reaction was shift. My articles no matter what will never see the light in their pages. I still send letters to test them fully aware that my letters will be discarded. But am not so worried. That is the price one must pay ironically for freedom of speech.
I applaud Dr. Kapa and you for engaging on this issue. Dr. Kapa wrote so eloquently about the need to put to good use “Northern labor” within the North. That is commendable and I believe federalism is the best way forward. I am not the type who believes that the good things are only in
To believe that
The people of
You wondered about lack of new entrants on Fedsnet. That is not an issue and I will tell you why. This is a serious list. The majority of Ugandans, sad to say, but is the truth, prefer cheap talk. That is why Fedsnet is not Ugandanet where every Tom, Mary, name it find solace and it is better that way. Simply put, Fedsnet is not and was not meant for the intellectually lazy and disingenuous Ugandans out there. That is for Ugandanet where Ugandans are just too happy to chip away at each other.
Question: what other list in such a short time has ever produced a document/roadmap comparable to what Mr. Senyonjo put together? If there aren’t any, why is that the case? For the record, I briefly joined Ugandanet and left shortly thereafter and won’t be back anytime soon. Fedsnet is not for everybody just as Ugandanet is not for me although they are both open forums. I belong to a few lists, although I may check out UNNANET in the near future.
We have never worried about new entrants. People come and go. Unlike the rest, this is a moderated list albeit in a liberal way. We have done very well by any standard. And in the coming months we have to figure out where we go from here. We have a good product and it may be time to take it to the people in
And I am personally grateful to this list especially Mr. Kibuka the founder and the few brave souls especially the Federal advocates who have been tenacious over the years. We may not always have agreed with each other, but we did our best to debate the Federal question. When not if anymore, Ugandans wake up to take about Federalism, we will be there, ready to make a small albeit well informed contribution. We dared to dream, why not?
It has been a pleasure to be part of this debate, but let us move on.
Kyijomanyi
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WBK:
We are not proud of the northern history, but we can no longer afford to dwell on this shameful past for ever and as an individual I reject outright the proposition to re-divide the region along the line put forward in the fed doc. This is a rebuilding of our colonial past of divide and rule. Since independence, we have accepted the region as a northern part of Uganda and we will make every possible effort to keep it as a block and will work effortlessly to identify the possible dynamics that has inhibited it being seen as one.
The problem of Uganda is not the division among northern tribes, but the failure of Uganda as a whole to ursher in democracy. A question asked over and over again in the context of the political culture in Uganda is: Why has democracy failed to find roots in Uganda....During the last 41 years of existence Uganda has not found a workable democratic system. That is the question you should be dealing with, not how divided the north is.....
As for any Ugandan becoming an expert on the north, we have no problem with that. After all there are always experts in this and that. I mean you have people such as Colin Turnbull who have studied and became an expert on the Ik a people of the higher mountains of Uganda...Why not you on the Kakwas or Lugbara. Margaret Mead spent years in the Samoan Islands studying the Samoans...Why not you spending months in Loropi studying the Madis
Oryema
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Mr. Kapa:
We are for decentralized and NOT unitary Federalism whatever that is. We have made that clear. Unlike you, I do not think that ethnicity is a bad word per se. I know of course the double speak of the African intellectuals who denounce ethnicity/tribalism during the day or whenever it suits them but rely on it, actually invoke it for political purposes. When is ethnicity bad and when is it good? When does it have political values and when is it a liability?
I don’t have to belabor the obvious, but you know cases in
When one of the most junior justices is fast tracked from the high Court to the
There are other justices who have served in both the High Court and
I digress here to show how ethnicity is well and alive in
Now back to federalism and the Northern question (assuming there is such a question). You write “I personally believe that the North cast as a more cohesive political, economic and cultural unit is a better entity to itself, to
Fair enough IF only it was possible and No, am not trying to divide the North, for it is already hopelessly divided.
Question: why would the Acholi, Langi, and
I strongly believe that if the people of Acholi, Lango,
Mr. Kapa, I know how politically incorrect it is viewed by some for me to comment on this, but am not the type to be too politically correct. I have seen what too much political correctness can do and has done here.
Rook1 talked about the bonds that tie us together as a people. But the Budos, Kisubis, Layibis, Mwiris, Gayazas, Namagungas, Ntares, Nyapeas have all along been there and to the best of my recollection have been egalitarian in their admission policies. Yet we hardly get along. Have the schools failed our country? What happened in between?
Let the people of Acholi, Lango,
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