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Mwaami Nume
Again you are twisting my statements, there is no
any where that I have stated that deaths in Uganda started in Northern Uganda, I
have been very clear in asking for a public inquirely into the massacres in
Uganda, I have used Luwero as an example and it is so sad that you have missed
all those calls. And my greatest fear is people like your self who publicly
state that we have been with massacres in Uganda but you fear to call for those
inquireries, you come in public forums as here, you go in public meetings both
in and out of Uganda and pretend to know every thing that happened in Uganda's
history. You know who killed the people in Luwero and it was Obote, you know who
killed the people in Nakaseke and it was UNLA. Well can you at least stand up
and ask for the government to charge them? And I differ from such a very sick
thinking, I think that Ugandans are developed enough to stand up and tell who
killed them. Why can Rwanda do it and Ugandans can not?
"Careful plans
were made to divide and rule, to plant hatred and most importantly to dupe even
the victims themselves."
Honestly if you know that such a divide was made
why are you pandering to the same? Why is it so crucial for you to find a
difference between a massacre of a Ugandan in an IDP camp and that of the rest
of Ugandans? Simon splitting up that small nation into small fractions is the
lesson that has been introduced to Uganda by Museveni's song of Ugandan's
problem is North Vs South, it is sad that even a man like you who should know
better use it in your argument. Genocide is bad whether it is in the North or in
the South end of the story, and any thing out side that norm is to create camps
in our country, camps that are today in North but tomorrow will be in Western
Uganda. Rwanda has reached such a hetrade where they are today because they do
not have any Rwandese issue, their issues are always Hutu Based or Tutsi based
and I want you to look very closely on Rwanda, for critical thinkers know for a
fact that Kagame's exit is going to create such a genocide that will make
the past one a joke.
It is very sad for Baganda have decided to take us
the Rwanda hate trip and it is to the rest of Ugandans to fight it tooth and
knail to see that it never succeeds.
It is also interesting that now you have started to
note that Kezio Musoke's family was butchered, and you continue "Meanwhile Nyeko will carry on hating Musoke, while
he tries to build a small house in Kyengera " Well The
Kezio Musoke I know is a Musoga, did we have a genocide in Busoga as well, and
if we had a genocide in Busoga as you seem to state today, why would the
repercussion be in Kyengera?
Mwaami Nume it is time we start to think about
Uganda as a nation, it is called nationalism.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is
in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:14
AM
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] UGANDA DIRTY SECRET
IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Mulindwa
When the truth ever comes out, it will be revealed that real genocide
took place in Uganda.
In order to understand HOW this genocide was perpetrated, one has to
understand the preparations and earlier genocides which took place before
the one in the north.
Look out Bwanika's posting for a lot of this background
Careful plans were made to divide and rule, to plant hatred and most
importantly to dupe even the victims themselves.
Before you accuse Kezio Musoke and Kansangwawo of not caring
about the dead in the north, ask who cared when Musoke's whole family was
butchered.??
Incidentally there is now a concerted effort to force Musoke to forget
what happened to him or to force him to accept that he got what he deserved.
If they can try and do this to Musoke, I shudder what they will do to Nyeko
after they release him from an IDP camp.
They will make Nyeko ,Atim, Nobert Mao, Cecilia Ogwal etc kneel
down to thank the Nya........ saviours who saved them from the horrors
of 'Kony', and the white world will clap and award the man more money
for solving the 'war'.
Meanwhile Nyeko will carry on hating Musoke, while he tries to build a
small house in Kyengera where one day he will spring to murder Musoke, Mukasa,
while Nya.... and Bya...... are getting world peace prizes.
Laughable
Nume
jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Mulindwa,
I have never stopped you from posting about the war in northern Uganda.
On the contrary, I have always encouraged you to stick to your pet subject,
the North.
Kasangwawo
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
<[email protected]>
To: "The First Virtual Network for
friends of Uganda"
<[email protected]>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC:
rwanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,David Musoke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],Florence Namutebi
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Ugnet] UGANDA DIRTY SECRET
IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Date: Mon, 2 Oct 2006 22:40:55
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Matek/Nume
There are facts in our nation we just cannot
ignore, just on record I was a member on New Vision discussion board few
months ago and I posted the same facts that actually UPDF is killing our
people and I questioned the presence of Konny in Northern Uganda. New
Vision decided to boot me out of the forum and not to email me even the
daily paper, for what I stated was a disrespect to the good national
force of UPDF. Today CIA its self is claiming the same thing, and I wonder
what Kezio the New Vision administrator has to say on a CIA
report. And if you read carefully I forwarded the same posting to
him.
I have taken a great time asking about this
un ending war, at times gone even opposite to people who follow North
issues like Matek for it just did not add up. Today we have pictures of
Konny fighters with Rastas. Give me a dam break, did Museveni's fighters
in Luwero have Rastas or Konny is just to smarter than how Museveni was in
the bush? Some thing is just out right wrong in Northern Uganda and all
Uganda government has to do is to look into our face and tell us the truth
of who is killing our people. In time I am going to post a writing on this
same war. Look there are those of us who have spent a whole life time on
this war, when the Kasangwawo's did not even allow us to post that there
is a war in Northern Uganda at all, we have lived all our life time
fighting these human right abuses. When we were asked why we even care
when we are Baganda. This article was written by a non Ugandan , how long
are the Kezio Musoke's of today going to hold Northerners at ransom, how
many are going to die to make the Kezio's care?
North is suffering today and it is going to
become a pain in twenty years if we do not open up and talk about it today
based on facts. And I need to know what UPDF is doing that we are not told
for starters.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni,
Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est
dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 9:13
PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] UGANDA DIRTY
SECRET IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Culu Nume:
Yes indeed we have spent decades here on Ugandanet informing our
fellow citizens, that those committing heinous crimes against the people
of Northern and Eastern Uganda, are none other then the UPDF....
did people listen... hell no!
Now the fact are coming out!!..even the US Central Intelligence
Agency now believes that the enermy is within the UPDF.... read
Mulindwa article!!
Matek
Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
But recent revelations in
Dar-es-Salaam show that the Ugandan leaders sudden shift in gear in
the search for peace in the north would startle, even humble many of
his critics, if indeed it is true he had received intelligence reports
from the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that indict his top
aides for complicity in the war in the north. Sources within the
Tanzania Defence Forces told The Sunday Standard recently how Museveni
had for two decades been duped by his top military commanders, senior
government officials and relatives into chasing a mirage in the form
of the Lords Resistance Army (LRA) Rebel leader, Joseph
Kony.
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Mulindwa and Matek
I have spent the last 10 years on this net trying to make this
point.
Thank God somebody else is finally seeing the light.
If UPDF = KONY, how long before you get UPDF =
KONY = M7.
Nume
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
By Ernest Mpinganjira
While on a tour to northern Uganda whose
residents, have endured brutal rebel insurgency over 20 years,
President Yoweri Museveni complained angrily that the "peace talks
were taking too long".
He even threatened to personally take over the
negotiations from his aides. The loud lament and impatience came
barely two months after the peace process got under way. In the
words of a Ugandan journalist "M-7 wants the crisis in the north
over as soon as yesterday".
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Ugandan President Yoweri
Museveni | So, why the
sudden change of tact and impatience when weeks before the talks
began, Museveni had vowed to pursue the rebels right into the
Democratic Republic of Congo? He had even sought United Nations
backing to flush out the rebels from Congo. For those who are aware
of the atrocities committed by Ugandan forces in eastern DRC, the
threats were perceived as a camouflaged attempt to send the Uganda
Peoples Defence Forces (UPDF) into the DRC again to continue with
the plunder of natural resources. This included the trafficking of
minerals, timber, cultural artifacts and game trophies.
But there had been a slight shift in Musevenis
handling national issues. Most notable was that a month before, he
had agreed to send representatives to meet the LRA top leadership.
He also had invited his opponents in the March presidential election
to State House for tea. All the presidential candidates, except
his bitter rival, Kizza Besigye from the Forum for Democratic
Change, turned up. Former First Lady, Miriam Obote, wife to the late
Milton Obote also attended. When this took place, some analysts were
quick to dismiss Musevenis move as an attempt to appease the
public. Still, other critics viewed Musevenis recent gust of
magnanimity as a pubic relations gimmick ahead of the Commonwealth
Heads of Government Meeting, which Kampala hosts in November next
year.
But recent revelations in Dar-es-Salaam show that
the Ugandan leaders sudden shift in gear in the search for peace in
the north would startle, even humble many of his critics, if indeed
it is true he had received intelligence reports from the US Central
Intelligence Agency (CIA) that indict his top aides for complicity
in the war in the north. Sources within the Tanzania Defence Forces
told The Sunday Standard recently how Museveni had for two decades
been duped by his top military commanders, senior government
officials and relatives into chasing a mirage in the form of the
Lords Resistance Army (LRA) Rebel leader, Joseph Kony.
"For as long as the conflict in the north
persisted, people close to Museveni were in business. They supplied
LRA with weapons and war logistics. On their own LRA were not
skilled and equipped enough to engage in common combat," a senior
defence officer said. The revelations that defence officers were
behind arming LRA added a new twist to the already familiar angle;
that the Sudanese government in Khartoum was bankrolling LRA to root
out former Sudanese Peoples Liberation Army/Movement rebels
(SPLA/M) from their positions in the northern Uganda. Khartoum had
long accused Kampala that it was supporting SPLA/M, which until two
years ago had waged a war to secede from the Muslim
north.
A Defence source says: "Museveni was shocked when
CIA brought to his attention that the enemy was within his own
government and armed forces but not LRA. Elements in his government
clandestinely sold firearms and military equipment to the rebels,"
the officer, who claimed to have personally taken part in the recent
training of the Ugandan forces, said. He said Museveni responded to
the new challenge by asking Tanzania to train 800 soldiers at the
Monduli Military Barracks, while Kenya was to undertake the training
of a new police force in attempt to decapitate the supply of
firearms and equipment to the rebels. But in revelations that could
shock the Kenyan government, the officer said the bungled Kenyan
police recruitment in December last year was part of Kampalas
attempt to re-constitute its security forces.
The officer said the recent deployment of the
Tanzanian-trained troops effectively cut the supply to LRA rendering
Konys army militarily impotent, hence his agreement to sit down
with the Ugandan government.
The said "strangers" during the police recruitment
exercise actually were from Uganda. "The strangers were Ugandan
trainees, a fact which Kenya and Uganda were keen to cover up, hence
allegations of bribery," he said.
The emergence of LRA from the woods to negotiate
peace with Musevenis government was phenomenal. It came at a time
when the region had pushed the rebellion to near-oblivion to
concentrate on quelling fresh and longstanding conflicts such one on
the Eritrea-Ethiopia border. Focus had suddenly shifted from some of
the most ferocious wars on the continent, where ethnic tensions
frequently threaten to explode into full-scale conflicts to Konys
ragtag outfit. Either out of the stubbornness of the protagonists,
Museveni and Kony, or war-weariness, the Ugandan conflict was passed
over in international forums as domestic affair between an
intellectual hardliner and a devious religious freak. The
information tapped into from TPDF, if true, sheds light for the
first time on the reasons that motivated Museveni to drop jingoism
in preference to negotiating a ceasefire.
So when Ugandas foreign minister Eriya Kategaya
said recently that Kampala would rather subject LRA men to cultural
justice system to give peace a chance, people in the know read the
determination of Museveni to keep a tight leash on otherwise
embarrassing revelations.
The Mulindwas Communication
Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
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l'Ouganda est dans
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