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Simon Nume
I refuse to believe that all Ugandans are wasted
and a people that cannot have a commission of inqurely, secondly that stand is
different from classifying a population, that is what scares the wits out of me,
and should scare you.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is
in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans
l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 8:33
PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] UGANDA DIRTY SECRET
IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Mulindwa
I went too deep and expected you to react like you did.
REREAD my posting carefully and you may see what I am saying. Somehow I
think that Matek understood.
I have no fear of a public inquiry in Uganda genocides, why should I? I
am but a victim.
What is the point of asking the hyena to keep the meat?
WHo is responsible for these genocides and will the inquiry not be
conducted by the same??
Learn to read between the lines
Edward Mulindwa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Mwaami Nume
Again you are twisting my statements, there is
no any where that I have stated that deaths in Uganda started in Northern
Uganda, I have been very clear in asking for a public inquirely into the
massacres in Uganda, I have used Luwero as an example and it is so sad that
you have missed all those calls. And my greatest fear is people like your
self who publicly state that we have been with massacres in Uganda but you
fear to call for those inquireries, you come in public forums as here, you
go in public meetings both in and out of Uganda and pretend to know every
thing that happened in Uganda's history. You know who killed the people in
Luwero and it was Obote, you know who killed the people in Nakaseke and it
was UNLA. Well can you at least stand up and ask for the government to
charge them? And I differ from such a very sick thinking, I think that
Ugandans are developed enough to stand up and tell who killed them. Why can
Rwanda do it and Ugandans can not?
"Careful
plans were made to divide and rule, to plant hatred and most importantly to
dupe even the victims themselves."
Honestly if you know that such a divide was
made why are you pandering to the same? Why is it so crucial for you to find
a difference between a massacre of a Ugandan in an IDP camp and that of the
rest of Ugandans? Simon splitting up that small nation into small fractions
is the lesson that has been introduced to Uganda by Museveni's song of
Ugandan's problem is North Vs South, it is sad that even a man like you who
should know better use it in your argument. Genocide is bad whether it is in
the North or in the South end of the story, and any thing out side that norm
is to create camps in our country, camps that are today in North but
tomorrow will be in Western Uganda. Rwanda has reached such a hetrade where
they are today because they do not have any Rwandese issue, their issues are
always Hutu Based or Tutsi based and I want you to look very closely on
Rwanda, for critical thinkers know for a fact that Kagame's exit is going to
create such a genocide that will make the past one a joke.
It is very sad for Baganda have decided to take
us the Rwanda hate trip and it is to the rest of Ugandans to fight it tooth
and knail to see that it never succeeds.
It is also interesting that now you have
started to note that Kezio Musoke's family was butchered, and you continue
"Meanwhile Nyeko will carry on hating
Musoke, while he tries to build a small house in Kyengera "
Well The Kezio Musoke I know is a Musoga, did we have a
genocide in Busoga as well, and if we had a genocide in Busoga as you seem
to state today, why would the repercussion be in Kyengera?
Mwaami Nume it is time we start to think about
Uganda as a nation, it is called nationalism.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni,
Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est
dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 5:14
AM
Subject: RE: [Ugnet] UGANDA DIRTY
SECRET IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Mulindwa
When the truth ever comes out, it will be revealed that real genocide
took place in Uganda.
In order to understand HOW this genocide was perpetrated, one has to
understand the preparations and earlier genocides which took place
before the one in the north.
Look out Bwanika's posting for a lot of this background
Careful plans were made to divide and rule, to plant hatred and most
importantly to dupe even the victims themselves.
Before you accuse Kezio Musoke and Kansangwawo of not
caring about the dead in the north, ask who cared when Musoke's whole
family was butchered.??
Incidentally there is now a concerted effort to force Musoke to
forget what happened to him or to force him to accept that he got what he
deserved. If they can try and do this to Musoke, I shudder what they will
do to Nyeko after they release him from an IDP camp.
They will make Nyeko ,Atim, Nobert Mao, Cecilia Ogwal etc kneel
down to thank the Nya........ saviours who saved them from the
horrors of 'Kony', and the white world will clap and award the man
more money for solving the 'war'.
Meanwhile Nyeko will carry on hating Musoke, while he tries to build
a small house in Kyengera where one day he will spring to murder Musoke,
Mukasa, while Nya.... and Bya...... are getting world peace
prizes.
Laughable
Nume
jonah kasangwawo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Mulindwa,
I have never stopped you from posting about the war in northern
Uganda. On the contrary, I have always encouraged you to stick to your
pet subject, the North.
Kasangwawo
From: "Edward Mulindwa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To:
The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda
<ugandanet@kym.net>
To: "The First Virtual Network for
friends of Uganda"
<ugandanet@kym.net>,<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC:
rwanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,David Musoke
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED],Florence
Namutebi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Ugnet] UGANDA
DIRTY SECRET IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Date: Mon, 2
Oct 2006 22:40:55 -0400
Matek/Nume
There are facts in our nation we just
cannot ignore, just on record I was a member on New Vision discussion
board few months ago and I posted the same facts that actually UPDF is
killing our people and I questioned the presence of Konny in Northern
Uganda. New Vision decided to boot me out of the forum and not to
email me even the daily paper, for what I stated was a disrespect to
the good national force of UPDF. Today CIA its self is claiming
the same thing, and I wonder what Kezio the New Vision administrator
has to say on a CIA report. And if you read carefully I forwarded
the same posting to him.
I have taken a great time asking about
this un ending war, at times gone even opposite to people who follow
North issues like Matek for it just did not add up. Today we have
pictures of Konny fighters with Rastas. Give me a dam break, did
Museveni's fighters in Luwero have Rastas or Konny is just to smarter
than how Museveni was in the bush? Some thing is just out right wrong
in Northern Uganda and all Uganda government has to do is to look into
our face and tell us the truth of who is killing our people. In time I
am going to post a writing on this same war. Look there are those of
us who have spent a whole life time on this war, when the Kasangwawo's
did not even allow us to post that there is a war in Northern Uganda
at all, we have lived all our life time fighting these human right
abuses. When we were asked why we even care when we are Baganda. This
article was written by a non Ugandan , how long are the Kezio Musoke's
of today going to hold Northerners at ransom, how many are going to
die to make the Kezio's care?
North is suffering today and it is going
to become a pain in twenty years if we do not open up and talk about
it today based on facts. And I need to know what UPDF is doing that we
are not told for starters.
Em
Toronto
The Mulindwas Communication Group
"With Yoweri Museveni,
Uganda is in
anarchy"
Groupe de communication Mulindwas
"avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda
est dans l'anarchie"
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006
9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Ugnet] UGANDA
DIRTY SECRET IN WAR UNVEILED , ('KONY'= UPDF)
Culu Nume:
Yes indeed we have spent decades here on Ugandanet informing
our fellow citizens, that those committing heinous crimes against
the people of Northern and Eastern Uganda, are none other then
the UPDF.... did people listen... hell no!
Now the fact are coming out!!..even the US Central Intelligence
Agency now believes that the enermy is within the UPDF....
read Mulindwa article!!
Matek
Simon Nume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
But recent revelations in
Dar-es-Salaam show that the Ugandan leaders sudden shift in gear
in the search for peace in the north would startle, even humble
many of his critics, if indeed it is true he had received
intelligence reports from the US Central Intelligence Agency
(CIA) that indict his top aides for complicity in the war in the
north. Sources within the Tanzania Defence Forces told The Sunday
Standard recently how Museveni had for two decades been duped by
his top military commanders, senior government officials and
relatives into chasing a mirage in the form of the Lords
Resistance Army (LRA) Rebel leader, Joseph Kony.
==============================================================
Mulindwa and Matek
I have spent the last 10 years on this net trying to make
this point.
Thank God somebody else is finally seeing the light.
If UPDF = KONY, how long before you get UPDF =
KONY = M7.
Nume
Edward Mulindwa
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
By Ernest Mpinganjira
While on a tour to northern Uganda whose
residents, have endured brutal rebel insurgency over 20 years,
President Yoweri Museveni complained angrily that the "peace
talks were taking too long".
He even threatened to personally take over the
negotiations from his aides. The loud lament and impatience came
barely two months after the peace process got under way. In the
words of a Ugandan journalist "M-7 wants the crisis in the north
over as soon as yesterday".
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Ugandan President Yoweri
Museveni | So, why
the sudden change of tact and impatience when weeks before the
talks began, Museveni had vowed to pursue the rebels right into
the Democratic Republic of Congo? He had even sought United
Nations backing to flush out the rebels from Congo. For those
who are aware of the atrocities committed by Ugandan forces in
eastern DRC, the threats were perceived as a camouflaged attempt
to send the Uganda Peoples Defence Forces (UPDF) into the DRC
again to continue with the plunder of natural resources. This
included the trafficking of minerals, timber, cultural artifacts
and game trophies.
But there had been a slight shift in
Musevenis handling national issues. Most notable was that a
month before, he had agreed to send representatives to meet the
LRA top leadership. He also had invited his opponents in the
March presidential election to State House for tea. All the
presidential candidates, except his bitter rival, Kizza Besigye
from the Forum for Democratic Change, turned up. Former First
Lady, Miriam Obote, wife to the late Milton Obote also attended.
When this took place, some analysts were quick to dismiss
Musevenis move as an attempt to appease the public. Still,
other critics viewed Musevenis recent gust of magnanimity as a
pubic relations gimmick ahead of the Commonwealth Heads of
Government Meeting, which Kampala hosts in November next
year.
But recent revelations in Dar-es-Salaam show
that the Ugandan leaders sudden shift in gear in the search for
peace in the north would startle, even humble many of his
critics, if indeed it is true he had received intelligence
reports from the US Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) that
indict his top aides for complicity in the war in the north.
Sources within the Tanzania Defence Forces told The Sunday
Standard recently how Museveni had for two decades been duped by
his top military commanders, senior government officials and
relatives into chasing a mirage in the form of the Lords
Resistance Army (LRA) Rebel leader, Joseph Kony.
"For as long as the conflict in the north
persisted, people close to Museveni were in business. They
supplied LRA with weapons and war logistics. On their own LRA
were not skilled and equipped enough to engage in common
combat," a senior defence officer said. The revelations that
defence officers were behind arming LRA added a new twist to the
already familiar angle; that the Sudanese government in Khartoum
was bankrolling LRA to root out former Sudanese Peoples
Liberation Army/Movement rebels (SPLA/M) from their positions in
the northern Uganda. Khartoum had long accused Kampala that it
was supporting SPLA/M, which until two years ago had waged a war
to secede from the Muslim north.
A Defence source says: "Museveni was shocked
when CIA brought to his attention that the enemy was within his
own government and armed forces but not LRA. Elements in his
government clandestinely sold firearms and military equipment to
the rebels," the officer, who claimed to have personally taken
part in the recent training of the Ugandan forces, said. He said
Museveni responded to the new challenge by asking Tanzania to
train 800 soldiers at the Monduli Military Barracks, while Kenya
was to undertake the training of a new police force in attempt
to decapitate the supply of firearms and equipment to the
rebels. But in revelations that could shock the Kenyan
government, the officer said the bungled Kenyan police
recruitment in December last year was part of Kampalas attempt
to re-constitute its security forces.
The officer said the recent deployment of the
Tanzanian-trained troops effectively cut the supply to LRA
rendering Konys army militarily impotent, hence his agreement
to sit down with the Ugandan government.
The said "strangers" during the police
recruitment exercise actually were from Uganda. "The strangers
were Ugandan trainees, a fact which Kenya and Uganda were keen
to cover up, hence allegations of bribery," he said.
The emergence of LRA from the woods to
negotiate peace with Musevenis government was phenomenal. It
came at a time when the region had pushed the rebellion to
near-oblivion to concentrate on quelling fresh and longstanding
conflicts such one on the Eritrea-Ethiopia border. Focus had
suddenly shifted from some of the most ferocious wars on the
continent, where ethnic tensions frequently threaten to explode
into full-scale conflicts to Konys ragtag outfit. Either out of
the stubbornness of the protagonists, Museveni and Kony, or
war-weariness, the Ugandan conflict was passed over in
international forums as domestic affair between an intellectual
hardliner and a devious religious freak. The information tapped
into from TPDF, if true, sheds light for the first time on the
reasons that motivated Museveni to drop jingoism in preference
to negotiating a ceasefire.
So when Ugandas foreign minister Eriya
Kategaya said recently that Kampala would rather subject LRA men
to cultural justice system to give peace a chance, people in the
know read the determination of Museveni to keep a tight leash on
otherwise embarrassing revelations.
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Group
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