Mulindwa, You are so confused to the point of being wacky, if not already. Before the so called "commission of inquiry" of yours come to life, there must first be a means to establish it. It is 20 years already, and not even the UPC has that means. You must stop dreaming. If you don't read beyond what are written, just butt out. Don't ever try to continually scuttle a process. I will repeat again, there are systemic approaches to everything. Understood? Ocii
Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ocii There is no question Museveni must go but so are all those that built him to what he is. Now since you have a problem following what I am responding, let me clarify about your "small fish" Uganda needs a commission of inquiry where all Ugandans that have suffered under Museveni and under your "Small fish" can stand up and state what they know about all of these people. After that inquiry then we can move ahead, but I am not going to sit in Toronto and state that the problem is Museveni and not his "small fish" Just on record there is no government of Uganda where Ugandans have collected as much as the data about all the participants into these genocides. Let us please respect the good work they have done by allowing them to have a day in court than recycling these people the way you are trying to do. What is so interesting the most is that FDC has privately and publicly refused to offer a commission of inquiry on any matter in Uganda if it ever gets to power. That is when I separated from that party. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania The problem again Mulindwa, you don't understand what are being said!!! Just butt out if you don't know what you are doing, that will caused you great damgage. I said there are systemic approach to everything; apparently you could not make head or tail out of it!! Uganda is bigger than any individual and to bring about change, one must be extremely meticulous. You cannot "vote for Mu7 anytime", but resort to fight little fish around him, when he is the architect of the current helplessness in the country!! Those who clobbered the Nazis did not go after the little fish around Hitler!!!! They made sure they killed Hitler first!!!, and anything else came after! Do you understand what I am saying or no?? If not butt out; simply butt out!! I am not going to say much, but be very careful. One more thing. Why should Rwandese look for Habyalimana? Why not focus on Kagame whom together with Mu7 brought all the killings and genocide in the country? Answer that so we hear. Ocii Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ocii "The fundamental question here is NOT who bought the missile; BUT who ENGINEERED the entire scheme!!" So are you saying that if Museveni instructs you to blow up people belonging to the 35th brigade as Mande did you go ahead for Museveni has instructed you, you are stating that if you are instructed to rape 9 year olds as UPDF is doing in North right now you will do so for you are only being instructed by those that are crafting the scotch policy of the North, so we should not hold you responsible for your actions. You are in essence instructing us not to hunt down those that served in the Nazi Germany for they were following Hitler's instructions and the Rwandese should be only looking for Habyalimaana. No sir I am sorry I will not do that if you are a soldier and instructed to kill people you better be ready to back up your actions for you will be held responsible, this nonsense of Black Mambas the kids that we know has started this sermon and ferociously that we must only condemn the architects. My friend if you went to the court and beat up the people you will also be held responsible. "Mulindwa, are you going to boot out every single Ugandan who work for the NRA/M government?" 100% I am tired of using the recycles. If you decide to take the recycles why not all of them, and where do you draw the line, for example are you taking Kainehura or Mande alone, are you taking Mugisha Muntu who Museveni kidnapped a 15 year old right from here in Toronto and forced into marriage or you are only taking Tinyefunza, is it Besigye only or you are taking Ofono Opondo, is Museveni's wife good since she was even elected into parliament or you are taking Wafla Oguttu who told us very clearly to shut up for Museveni is the only man that clean up Uganda. Where do you start and stop when you are recycling these God created to be the only people leading Uganda SIR!!! It simply frustrates when Ugandans start to plead for these rapists and murderers when the Jews are not only looking for the soldiers that served in Nazi Germany but the enablers. No wonder you are still kneeling before teh queen under a wealth that is no common at all. I have a forum right now where a member's Landover was taken by Mugisha Muntu at gun point, and Muntu drove it for as long as he wanted, and you want us to blame Museveni for he was the one that crafted these things. We live in very strange days indeed. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 12:57 AM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania Mulindwa please go to bed. If you don't see the flaws in your arguments, then there is something serious to be questioned. If Besigye crafted the movement policies that have seen it through 20 years now, why is it difficult for him, for the last ten or so years, to craft policies that should have brought it, the NRA/M, down by now? Perhaps this "I am scared of FDC for if these people managed to craft the Movement policies this good to be effective for twenty years, I surely would vote for Museveni than Kiiza Besigye any time." in colour is what readers should pay attention to, to understand a little more. You continued "And politics is never a profession, they have tried and failed, some like Besgiye even stood twice and lost, let them move on." Are you being serious? What opposition leadership in Uganda has tried and succeeded? Tell us? Has the UPC leadership tried and succeeded? What about the DP; CP, etc. Have they all tried and succeeded? Or, they have not tried at all maybe, therefore they should be the only ones to be allowed to try on and on, while Mulindwa votes for Museveni each time the Beigyes try? Mulindwa take such childish argument away and far. Then again you stated "Well if that is true why do you consider me not being smart when I get bothered of not only Museveni but Colonel Samson Mande whose name appears on the certificate of origin, as a buyer of the Missile that took the plane down?" Simple: Because you don't understand what are being said. As simple as that. Mulindwa, are you going to boot out every single Ugandan who work for the NRA/M government? The fundamental question here is NOT who bought the missile; BUT who ENGINEERED the entire scheme!! Get that and understand it clearly. It will help. Ocii Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Ocii I am trying my best not to get entangled into your arguments for I have seen them way long to burn my gas but let me respond to you as brief as I can. I am scared of FDC for if these people managed to craft the Movement policies this good to be effective for twenty years, I surely would vote for Museveni than Kiiza Besigye any time. And politics is never a profession, they have tried and failed, some like Besgiye even stood twice and lost, let them move on. Second you state and I quote "Everything that went wrong in Uganda including the assassination of former Rwandan president was diue to Mu7, who is the architect of it all." End quote. Well if that is true why do you consider me not being smart when I get bothered of not only Museveni but Colonel Samson Mande whose name appears on the certificate of origin, as a buyer of the Missile that took the plane down? I am going to bed. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 9:49 PM Subject: Re: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania Mulindwa, Why are you so scared of the FDC than even the movement govt that is running the country as we speak? And why are you scared shitfull of yourself of Kizza Besigye, Samson Mande, and Mugisha Muntu than Mu7 and his NRA/M running the country today? Do these people know something about you, you don't feel comfortable about? Inquiring mind would like to know! If not then I don't see why you should be so scared of the FDC which by and large is still under construction. Make sense to you? Everything that went wrong in Uganda including the assassination of former Rwandan president was diue to Mu7, who is the architect of it all. But you are instead attacking the Mandes, to perpetuate Mu7 in power maybe?, who were themselves recruits of Mu7 the architect. Mulindwa you cannot be very smart! I pitty you. Ocii Edward Mulindwa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: And you expect Mugisha Muntu who was a commanding officer of UPDF as it was burning Ugandans in Mukura to be on of the top leaders of FDC as these assets are being confiscated. Then you expect Colonel Samson Mande who was commanding in the North as the entire brigade 35 was murdered including their children and wives to start a party as FDC that will confiscate these assets. We have been right in this position when the Luwero war was running and we were called idiots for it is only Museveni that can remove Obote. Today the war of Uganda has been again personalized to the name Yoweri Museveni. Ugandans have every right not to involve them selves into such madness. Em Toronto The Mulindwas Communication Group "With Yoweri Museveni, Uganda is in anarchy" Groupe de communication Mulindwas "avec Yoweri Museveni, l'Ouganda est dans l'anarchie" ----- Original Message ----- From: ocii To: The First Virtual Network for friends of Uganda Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 8:54 PM Subject: [Ugnet] MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania These are the kinds of public fund embezzlements that keeps Uganda, and indeed Africa underdeveloped! Idiot leaders emebezzling public funds with impunity. Well, keep this plus many other issues alive. Eventually these individuals will have to pay back the money, or their wealth taken. Period. Ocii ********************* MPs probe Museveni schools in Tanzania Yasiin Mugerwa PARLIAMENT A PARLIAMENTARY committee has instituted a probe into circumstances under which President Yoweri Museveni spent Shs1.6 billion of tax-payers money to construct two schools in Tanzania. The Parliamentary Public Accounts Committee yesterday instructed its legal department to investigate the conditions under which the President committed public funds amounting to US$932,823.2 to build two secondary schools in Tanzania. The two schools include Nyamiyaga, Murongo located in Karagwe area and Nyarigamba, Muhutwe situated in Muleba District bordering Bokoba area. According to correspondences Daily Monitor has seen, the construction of the two schools began some time in 2005 after Multiplex Ltd, a Ugandan private company allegedly won the contract. The construction comes at a time when there is acute shortage of classrooms for Universal Primary Education and Universal Secondary Education in the country. Concern was raised after the committee learnt that the money (Shs1.6 billion) Mr Museveni used for the construction was charged on the donation account of the StateHouse budget without authority. The committee also heard that the two schools were a donation by Mr Museveni to the Tanzanians for their historical contribution to the 1979 liberation struggle that ousted the former President, late Idd Amin Dada from power. This is unacceptable as Parliament we cannot appropriate money for Tanzanians yet many Ugandans are still grappling with illiteracy. This money would have gone to Luweero District but not Tanzania, said Nandala Mafabi (Budadiri West) the committee chairperson. This was a Ugandan struggle not for Tanzanians. If the president wished to donate he would have used his personal savings not public resources. To bring this (donation) to our budget was wrong. Richard Muhinda, the Statehouse Comptroller said the money was part of President Musevenis donation item and is not limited to any country. The President is the fountain of honour and is free to donate to any person that deserves assistance in whatever locality, said Mr Muhinda. It had been an outstanding donation to the people of Tanzania and we had to squeeze our own budget (StateHouse) to fulfill this pledge. But the committee has established that even the circumstances under which Multiplex Ltd was awarded a $1 million contract to construct the two schools had loopholes. It is alleged that the tendering process was not clear since Mr Muhinda admitted that there was no advertising made inviting other bidders as the construction of both schools was an emergency. Mr Muhinda insists that there was no foul play because StateHouse used restrictive bidding involving Multiplex Ltd, Roko Construction Company Ltd, Transaction International and Complliant Engineers & Trade Ltd. We offered the tender to Multiplex because they had a fair deal. Their rates were lower compared to others. I am proud to have been part of this project because it was transparent and we followed the law, Mr Muhinda said. But the committee wondered whether it would be possible for Tanzanian authorities to allow Ugandan Parliament to conduct a value-for money audit into the project. Daily Monitor has learnt that State House contract with Multiplex was not signed by any Multiplex official but instead with the Tanzanian government. --------------------------------- Be smarter than spam. See how smart SpamGuard is at giving junk email the boot with the All-new Yahoo! 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