Dude,
    If you think my post was a pot shot at you, I'd say you are being a tad 
self centered.  
    My suggestion was based on the reporting of what happened at the meeting.  
We know Marty works for Jannie, that Jannie showed up at the meeting apparently 
intent on raising a fuss about John F and criticizing UCD.  The anonymous 
poster wanted to encourage people interested in the issue to show up.
     So the question I saw was, who knew in advance that the issue was going to 
come up, although the agenda was focused elsewhere, and who had an interest in 
bringing out additional community members who are hyped up on the whole issue?
     I don't see an alignment between Tony and anti-UCD forces.  How would he 
have the info and how does he gain by getting people to come?  What was his 
motive?  How would he gain?
     Jannie and Marty, OTOH, would benefit, wouldn't they?
    Does that mean that Marty posted anonymously?  Certainly not.  Just 
provides a motive and context.  
     And I don't think you're in a good position to criticize others for trying 
to interpret events and sharing your interpretations with others.  Not at all.


Paul


 


 

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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:28 
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Subject: Fwd: [UC] Reality check

  



  
I thought I saw Marty's name on the board list for 
  UCD when I checked earlier this month.  
I 
  understand he was very present at the first Thursday with Jannie.
Seems like he should have been the usual suspect for 
  the committeeman7 message.  Right?

Paul

  
 




  
Hey buddy,

  
 

  
You can take pot shots at what I say on the 
  list.  But now, you are engaging in this insinuation against people 
  without any support.  It was always nutty to accuse a Blackwell associate 
  of that post.  Now, you make this type of suggestion.  Shame on 
  you.

  
 

  
You need to ask the one who brought the report of 
  the fraud, and launched the immediate investigations into voteforandytoy and 
  committeeman 7; how the investigation proceeds.  I believe that was Mr. 
  West, if I am not mistaken.

  
 

  
Nnelg

  
 

  
 

  



  



  


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Sent: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 6:25 pm
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality check


  
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  List" <UnivCity@list.purple.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, June 
  13, 2007 5:15 PM 
Subject: Re: [UC] Reality 
  check 
 
> KAREN ALLEN wrote: 
>> I thought 
  John Fenton was under a gag order. If that's the case, he's 
  >> not in a position to refute 
  anything. 
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> open 
  questions: 
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> are the other ucd 
  employees that were involved with the malcolm x park > 
  incident also under gag orders? 
 
Excellent question! I hope 
  they haven't been placed on a 2 week 
  leave. 
 
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> also, is it true that marty and glenn bryan were 
  removed from ucd's board? > when? were any reasons given 
  why? 
 
OK. This is what I know. I remember that Marty Cabry was on the UCD 
  Board at the very beginning. Maybe 1999 or 2001? I had heard a long time ago 
  that he had been removed rather than having quit. For me, the Councilmanwoman 
just confirmed what I had heard a long time 
  ago. 
 
What I think I heard on Thurs.? Councilwoman Blackwell suggesting that both he 
and Glenn Bryan were removed 
  because of the long working relationship with her. I missed when Glenn Bryan 
  was actually on the Board. It's my opinion that she is confirming what I've 
  asserted, a UCD demand for secrecy. 
 
A 
  working relationship should have open communication pathways. Whether it's 
  between a civic association and their members, or between a UCD and the 
community's elected representative; open 
  communication needs to be encouraged. 
 
I have no other 
  information, but I think I understand her complaint. Why should she not have 
a 
  representative on the board with whom she has a working relationship? The 
  community depends on her to get the best information about what is going on, 
  and if her contacts are removed; the open communication is 
  blocked. 
 
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> and, is the full text of wendell's statement available publicly? when he > 
> read it at 
  last thursday's meeting, did he just happen to have a copy 
  with > him, or had he been planning on reading it? 
 
He 
  read it when, I believe both Freda and I, called out, "will you confirm or 
  deny" what the Councilwoman is telling us. He did not offer any copies of the 
  statement, but read it from a paper. 
 
That's what I 
  experienced, 
 
Glenn 
 
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> [aka ray] 
> SERIAL LIAR. 
  CALL FOR RATES. 
> "It is very clear on this listserve who 
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  being 
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  West 
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