Well.., there it is.
On 9/18/07 5:18 PM, "UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Mariellen Smith wrote: >> Gosh, this has been super interesting. Maybe we could make a listserv >> for people to discuss the listserv itself. It would be a great place to >> debate the merits of the listserv, discuss listserv philosophy, explore >> the fascinating nuances of e-manners, and gossip about other listservs. >> If my inbox is any indicator, I'm sure this would be a busy and >> successful list. > > > I know you're trying to be wry and amusing here or whatever, > and I appreciate that, but, if we think about it, isn't > 'discussing' what's published -- whether in print or online > -- pretty much what's always been done? normally? publicly? > > just because we may happen to be the ones actually creating > the content, having the conversation, doesn't mean we can't > also discuss creating content or talk about having > conversations. also, quoting another listserv or talking > about what's posted on another website isn't gossip or bad > manners, any more than quoting a newspaper or a teevee show, > nor does it take any special philosophy or etiquette. > > for example, when glenn writes about kyle's list, about list > gangs and penn-branded lists, and how kyle 'pre-banned' > glenn from taking part in kyle's list, I can point out (with > urls) how melani lamond and ross bender were posting to > kyle's list before kyle ever announced it here on uclist on > july 28. so in addition to 'pre-banning' there was > 'pre-enlisting'. here's how that went [and anyone is free to > publicly comment on it]: > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000001.html > Richard Cardona > Fri Jul 27 > > *** > > Richard Cardona > Director for Information Technology > Annenberg School for Communication > University of Pennsylvania > (215) 898-9614 > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000002.html > Kyle Cassidy > Fri Jul 27 > > Testing... > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000004.html > Ross Bender > Fri Jul 27 > > OK, let's see what happens. > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000005.html > Kyle Cassidy > Fri Jul 27 > > excellent. welcome aboard. we'll see how this goes for a > few days. once more people get on, i'll experiment with > forced moderation. the cool thing about this software > is that i can pre-ban glenn! > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000006.html > Melani Lamond > Fri Jul 27 > > I'm in the Poconos, hoping to be sending the first email > to Kyle's new listserv - but there may be no one on the > list yet to receive it. Thanks, Kyle, and I look forward > to a productive, friendly, helpful list. We may be able > to DOUBLE the number of members the UC List has had, and > multiply the number of people willing to actually speak > up by a huge number, and really have a great > communication system for our neighborhood. > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000007.html > Melani Lamond > Fri Jul 27 > > kcassidy at asc.upenn.edu writes: >> the cool thing about this software is that i can >> pre-ban glenn! > > This will be heaven. But, I hope he doesn't know where > you live. > > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000008.html > Kyle Cassidy > Fri Jul 27 > > there are three of us on it now. there are only 300 > people on the uc list. i don't think 600 would be > difficult to get. > > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000009.html > Ross Bender > Fri Jul 27 > > Actually, 370 as of today. Impossible to tell how many > of those subscriber addresses are still active. > > > > http://lists.asc.upenn.edu/pipermail/ucneighbors/2007-July/000010.html > Kyle Cassidy > Fri Jul 27 > > it's such a nearly non-existent slice of this > neighborhood. 370 people. at least all the cranks are > isolated. > > > - - - - - - - > > the problem with that last remark (besides its rudeness) is > that there is no such thing as being 'isolated' in the > public square. uclist and kyle's list are both publicly > accessible, and participation in both is subject to public > scrutiny and public commentary. > > > .................. > UNIVERSITY*CITOYEN > [aka laserbeam®] > [aka ray] > SERIAL LIAR. CALL FOR RATES. > "It is very clear on this listserve who > these people are. Ray has admitted being > connected to this forger." -- Tony West > "Ray's falsehoods are more sophisticated, > more believable" -- Tony West > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. > For more information please visit http://www.messagelabs.com/email > ______________________________________________________________________ > ---- > You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the > list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see > <http://www.purple.com/list.html>. ---- You are receiving this because you are subscribed to the list named "UnivCity." To unsubscribe or for archive information, see <http://www.purple.com/list.html>.
