Thanks for this response, all at least somewhat true and understandable from you my friend Glenn... I guess it is sort of like the sayings go... as in "you can lead people to knowledge but you can't make them think"... still it was nice to have community access and not nice being ostracized by an arbitrary "shut up kid -it's something you did" "tails I win heads you lose" "my way or the highway" "I'm no thug, no siree, I say who's best now, it's you or me". RC
On Mar 21, 2012, at 7:33 AM, Glenn wrote: > I seem to be removed by Kyle from the ucneighbors list. My emails bounce > back with a google message saying as much. > > Rick, > > Congratulations. A process for truth and reconciliation requires an > ingenuous desire for healing by all parties. Both a commitment to truth and > cessation of hostilities are prerequisites. Bullying, name calling, lies, > etc. are all signs that truth and reconciliation can not yet occur. It can > not be forced. > > I know people feel the need to have maximum connections for restaurant > reviews, etc. But supporting a group dedicated and founded on the concept of > information control and censorship is never the correct decision. > > Most of traditional media no longer serves the public good and have become > vehicles for manipulating and misinforming the people. While in no way > perfect, the internet and open listservs allow citizen journalists to resist > deceptions and disseminate honest information. (e.g. It was the public list > which informed our neighborhood that there was an important issue at the > recent candidates forum and that the poisonous RoundUp was regularly > dumped on Clark Park, etc.) > > If an organized deceptive campaign had destroyed our public listserv several > years ago, and all the new residents believed that ucneighbors was no > different from a public list, do you see how the iron grip on information > would have been sealed? This is why ucneighbors was kicked off the Penn > computer network and not because the university quakes in fear from lawsuit > threats by Glenn Moyer! > > Think about how ridiculous Cassidy's recent lie really was, and why he kept > any information from his contained group at ucneighbors until he saw an > opportunity to use me for his lie. Hell, I would have forced Penn to paint > the campus purple if I had that much power over it!!! > > The neighborhood and society will be much better if we all allow ucneighbors > to rot away and become a club for bullies and propagandists, instead of > turning our backs on the few public forums like PFSNI and the purplelist. > They can call me all the names they want, but who really gives a damn? > > Resisting bullying, > Glenn > > On 3/20/2012 9:41 PM, Richard Conrad wrote: >> >> I seem to be removed by Kyle from the ucneighbors list. My emails bounce >> back with a google message saying as much. >> Maybe that solves Hedra Packman's issue(s). Kyle can be bad, people can be >> bad, democracy beats elitism and I prefer it to Kyle's personal >> dictatorship, but I'll miss the listserve very much! >> >> On Mar 20, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Wilma de Soto wrote: >> >>> I do know Hedra. She a neighborhood resident. I served on the Board of >>> Trustees of the Center for Literacy with for years. >>> >>> She also had to put with my fellow elder Obie Eliot Shelkrot for years. >>> >>> I am sorry to lose her. She's good people. >>> >>> Wilma >>> >>> From: Richard Conrad <rdcon...@verizon.net> >>> Reply-To: Richard Conrad <rdcon...@verizon.net> >>> Date: Tue, 20 Mar 2012 19:09:12 -0400 >>> To: "Packman, Hedra" <packm...@freelibrary.org> >>> Cc: UnivCity listserv <UnivCity@list.purple.com>, UCNeighbors Neighbors >>> <ucneighb...@googlegroups.com> >>> Subject: Re: [UC] unsubscribe >>> >>> Never knew you, that I can say, or that you were ever subscribed, and this >>> email does not as far as I know unsubscribe anyone per se... so I don't >>> have any way to respond to your message, sorry. - Rick Conrad >>> >>> On Mar 20, 2012, at 2:14 PM, Packman, Hedra wrote: >>> >>>> Unsubscribe univ city list.purple.com and UCNeighbors >>>> Unsubscribe packm...@library.phila.gov and packm...@freelibrary.org >>>> Thanks! >>> >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 9.0.927 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4282 - Release Date: 03/20/12 >> 03:34:00 >>
