On 01.04.2006, at 16:59, Liam Proven wrote:

On 3/31/06, Sven Radke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
my 2 b&w rev1 and rev2 run both latest tigers without any need to use
xpf on them. Both dual head with radeon 7000s

How did you install it? Do you have internal DVD drives or use Tiger on CD?

Internal DVD Drives, a Pioneer DVD Writer and a DVD Reader in the other b&w what came with a b&w built by order

All the B&Ws that I have seen have only CD-ROMs internally, and I have
found that the machines cannot boot off a Firewire DVD drive. That's
why I had to use XPF to install - it writes the boot files to the hard
disk, so that the machine can boot off hard disk and load the
installer off DVD.

Interesting... Do you tried to boot a Firewire Hard Disk on a b&w. I didn't but like to hear that it works :-)


When installed, they run quite well. They're not fast but they are
usable and stable and noticeably quicker than a Beige.

I found out that the pci bus can be problematic when it uses too much
system resources. Quartz extreme hack and using controllers (Firewire
and/or ATA Cards) crashed those boxes. Maybe that's a point...

Thanks for the hint. I have read of this, yes, but I don't (yet) have
QE-capable video cards, so I've not tried PCI Extreme. Since QE can
not enable 2D acceleration - only certain video cards can do that, and
none of them are available on PCI - I will probably wait until I can
afford a G4 with AGP before putting a fancy video card in.

The Radeon benefit from the QE hack. But as said, in my setup the box crashed cause too much bandwith thru the PCI Bus.


You have those boxes on their original cpu and bus clocks - say that
u - or someone - don't tuned them with changing the clock jumper
blocks ?

Yes, they're stock 400MHz units. I did overclock my Beige to 333MHz
with some success - I might try on these machines, now that they are
stable.

Thanks for the suggestions, everyone! Changing the RAM seems to have
done the trick & given me stable machines, but I now have about a
gigabyte of PC100 RAM that I can't use in my Macs... :¬(


There was a Classic program, Ram doctor, or alike, can't remember the name, that set the right data in the configuration chip of the ram sticks. Can't give more details, that was long ago, never benefit from it but maybe some of your ram sticks can be set up for Mac use.

cheers,
Sven
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