On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:20 AM, Michael Hunger < michael.hun...@neotechnology.com> wrote:
> I vote not dropped, as there are lots of non-java developers out there > which would want to use REST server dynamically. > I am completely open to the notion that I am wrong here. But I want us to have answered the questions I was asking before properly, if we are going to embrace all these ways to talk to the server. What use cases does dynamic script execution cover that cypher or gremlin do not? Why should those use cases not be covered by cypher or gremlin? > > That was the reason why we wrote the ruby-script-extension support. > > Michael > > Am 02.11.2011 um 10:08 schrieb Jacob Hansson: > > > On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Peter Neubauer < > > peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > > > >> Well, > >> I think that Cypher is not yes taking into account Uniqueness, or is > >> it Andres? Otherwise, most of the normal traversals are covered. > >> > >> To keep things consistent and give people a way of doing fine grained > >> traversals, I would then suggest to document all the existing examples > >> using Cypher or Groovy code, so we can document that things are > >> working as expected and not loose functionality. > >> > > > > Sounds like a really good idea. > > > > > >> > >> The JavaScript exposure then would totally go away from the REST API > >> and possibly be factored out into a plugin like Groovy/Gremlin. Or > >> dropped. > >> > > > > I vote dropped :) > > > > > >> > >> WDYT? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> > >> /peter neubauer > >> > >> GTalk: neubauer.peter > >> Skype peter.neubauer > >> Phone +46 704 106975 > >> LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > >> Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > >> > >> http://www.neo4j.org - NOSQL for the Enterprise. > >> http://startupbootcamp.org/ - Öresund - Innovation happens HERE. > >> > >> > >> > >> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:31 AM, Jacob Hansson > >> <jacob.hans...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:22 PM, Peter Neubauer < > >>> peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Nope, > >>>> I mean a server side script execution (which we already are doing in > >>>> http://docs.neo4j.org/chunked/snapshot/rest-api-traverse.html) to > >>>> execute traversal API code on the server. Neo4js is a client driver. > >>>> > >>>> > >>> Remember that adding yet another way to talk to the server comes at a > >> cost > >>> of confusion and spreading engineering focus thin. > >>> > >>> I don't think we should do this unless there is a good answer to the > >>> question: > >>> > >>> *Is there anything* *that this solves that is not solved by Cypher or > >>> Gremlin, and if so, why don't we expand Cypher or Gremlin to > incorporate > >>> that use case instead? > >>> > >>> *Collecting our efforts in fewer buckets means that improvements will > >>> benefit everyone, not just the group that uses the Groovy endpoint, or > >> the > >>> Traversal API, or the JS endpoint and so on. > >>> > >>> > >>>> Cheers, > >>>> > >>>> /peter neubauer > >>>> > >>>> GTalk: neubauer.peter > >>>> Skype peter.neubauer > >>>> Phone +46 704 106975 > >>>> LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > >>>> Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > >>>> > >>>> http://www.neo4j.org - NOSQL for the Enterprise. > >>>> http://startupbootcamp.org/ - Öresund - Innovation happens HERE. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:19 AM, Andres Taylor > >>>> <andres.tay...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>> You, something like Neo4js <https://github.com/neo4j/neo4js>? We've > >> had > >>>>> that since forever. Or do you mean something different? > >>>>> > >>>>> Andrés > >>>>> > >>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 5:06 PM, Peter Neubauer < > >>>>> peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Also, > >>>>>> there is another possibility: We are exposing a ECMA script > execution > >>>>>> engine via the Traverse enpoints. Instead of trying to shoehorn the > >>>>>> traversal API into REST calls and then anyway executing script > >>>>>> snippets, Why not exposing a JavaScript plugin along exactly the > same > >>>>>> lines as the Groovy plugin, and provide examples on how to use the > >>>>>> same usecases via that plugin, so we cover the traversal API that > >> way? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Cheers, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> /peter neubauer > >>>>>> > >>>>>> GTalk: neubauer.peter > >>>>>> Skype peter.neubauer > >>>>>> Phone +46 704 106975 > >>>>>> LinkedIn http://www.linkedin.com/in/neubauer > >>>>>> Twitter http://twitter.com/peterneubauer > >>>>>> > >>>>>> http://www.neo4j.org - NOSQL for the Enterprise. > >>>>>> http://startupbootcamp.org/ - Öresund - Innovation happens HERE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Jacob Hansson > >>>>>> <jacob.hans...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> It would be interesting to rephrase the question like this: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Are there any use cases that the REST traversal API covers, that we > >>>>>>> currently cannot replicate in Cypher or Gremlin? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Peter Neubauer < > >>>>>>> peter.neuba...@neotechnology.com> wrote: > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Well, > >>>>>>>> Andres has been putting the first algo into cypher and we are > >>>> thinking > >>>>>> of > >>>>>>>> exposing them there so thru can be used as path functions in an > >>>>>> expression. > >>>>>>>> However, that will be step 2. WDYT? > >>>>>>>> On Oct 29, 2011 6:47 PM, "maxdemarzi" <maxdema...@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I think the traversal rest api is fine for my purposes, but if > >>>> cypher > >>>>>> is > >>>>>>>>> where we want to go long term, then we need to deprecate it in > >> 1.6 > >>>> and > >>>>>>>> drop > >>>>>>>>> it in 1.7. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> This gives us some time to update our libraries and for cypher > >> to > >>>>>> settle > >>>>>>>>> down. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Are you guys thinking of getting rid of the rest built in graph > >>>>>>>> algorithms > >>>>>>>>> or are those there to stay? > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>>> View this message in context: > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>> > >> > http://neo4j-community-discussions.438527.n3.nabble.com/Neo4j-REST-traverse-deprecation-tp3460396p3464979.html > >>>>>>>>> Sent from the Neo4j Community Discussions mailing list archive > >> at > >>>>>>>>> Nabble.com. > >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>>>>>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>>>>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>>>>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>>>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>> Jacob Hansson > >>>>>>> Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 > >>>>>>> Twitter: @jakewins > >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>>>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>>>> > >>>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>>> > >>>> _______________________________________________ > >>>> Neo4j mailing list > >>>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> -- > >>> Jacob Hansson > >>> Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 > >>> Twitter: @jakewins > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> Neo4j mailing list > >>> User@lists.neo4j.org > >>> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >>> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Neo4j mailing list > >> User@lists.neo4j.org > >> https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Jacob Hansson > > Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 > > Twitter: @jakewins > > _______________________________________________ > > Neo4j mailing list > > User@lists.neo4j.org > > https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > > _______________________________________________ > Neo4j mailing list > User@lists.neo4j.org > https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user > -- Jacob Hansson Phone: +46 (0) 763503395 Twitter: @jakewins _______________________________________________ Neo4j mailing list User@lists.neo4j.org https://lists.neo4j.org/mailman/listinfo/user
