Just to add my thanks to everyone - this should really help stabilize our development while keeping more great features not found in release 4
On 02/03/2009 15:51, "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com> wrote: This has been already discussed to and fro and I totally agree Jacques From: "David E Jones" <david.jo...@hotwaxmedia.com> > > The Release Plan document does cover this: > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan > > The whole point of doing a release branch is so that we never have to do a > feature freeze in the trunk. The release branch is the > place where we never allow new features, and in the trunk they are always > allowed. > > As for why to wait longer, I'm still thinking the end of March is a better > date since a few things are up in the air: > > 1. completing MyPortal: remove MyPage, move MyPortal to framework > > 2. framework independence: move all references to non-framework things > (especially Party) from framework components into > applications components, and in general make the framework free of > dependencies on the applications > > There may be more things, but IMO those 2 items are critical to finish > before the release branch so that the branch won't start > out with significant issues that require refactoring and not bug fixes, and > so will never be done in the release branch. Those > who want such things would then have to wait another year or two for the > next release branch, or use the trunk, which would make > this release branch of less value. > > And no, we're not going to do release branches more often. A release branch > is only valuable if there are enough people using to > help maintain it and fix bugs in it. Having lots of release branches > undermines that, and that issue is already a big one as the > release4.0 branch shows with only about 2-3 bugs ever fixed in it that were > not back-ported from the trunk. > > -David > > > On Mar 1, 2009, at 12:04 AM, Bruno Busco wrote: > >> Hi, >> I think from this moment we should consider to stop adding new >> features in the trunk until we create the release branch. >> What do you think? >> It is hopeful that the 9.3 will be created soon. Lots of users are >> waiting to sit on it (including me ;-). >> >> IMO there is no reason to wait longer. If, from this moment on, we >> will take care of committing bug fixes to the trunk in separate >> commits from improvement it will quite easy to merge them to the >> release branch. >> >> From the JIRA release 9.3 roadmap: >> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OFBIZ/fixforversion/12313602 >> I see three issues needs to be closed before releasing. >> >> Any update? >> >> -Bruno >> >> >> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>: >>> Personally I'd like to see all security issues solved before a new release. >>> There also are some other things I have not in head just right now (Colors >>> and localisation for the calendar is one of them) >>> Anyway if we are sure we will be able to fix all security issues before >>> freezing this release (hey, I did not say 9.3 ;o) I think it >>> should be ok. >>> By this last sentence I mean we may create a branch in march 2009. But this >>> will not imply that the release will be numbered 9.3. >>> Remember Ubuntu 6.06 should have been 6.04 ... >>> >>> Jacques >>> >>> From: "Bruno Busco" <bruno.bu...@gmail.com> >>>> >>>> Why postpone it? >>>> Will we not be able to close this in february/march? >>>> >>>> >>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC >>>> >>>> -Bruno >>>> >>>> 2009/2/23 Jacques Le Roux <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>: >>>>> >>>>> In Ubuntu world they use LTS concept (Long Time Support) which means 5 >>>>> (yes >>>>> five!) years of guaranteed support on these specific versions (there are >>>>> already 2 of them : 6.06 and 8.04). >>>>> Of course OFBiz is not an OS and I think we will never support a release >>>>> 5 >>>>> years (how could we do with the lack of manpower we still have despite of >>>>> all wonderful efforts we have seen taking place since the beginning of >>>>> this >>>>> project). >>>>> So I guess we will simply have releases (or versions, like 9.3, but I >>>>> guess >>>>> we will postpone its release, hence the number will change) and the trunk >>>>> as >>>>> it's already done. >>>>> In one word a version will be >>>>> either >>>>> trunk.releaseNumber >>>>> either >>>>> versionNumber.releaseNumber (like 9.3.999999) >>>>> >>>>> Note that the footer shows already this information if you run the ant >>>>> svninfo target after your build >>>>> >>>>> If we are all ok with this description (David?) I could add this to >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Release+Plan >>>>> And I think we should at least update title in >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+4.X+and+5.0 >>>>> >>>>> HTH >>>>> >>>>> Jacques >>>>> >>>>> From: "BJ Freeman" <bjf...@free-man.net> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >>>>>> Hash: SHA1 >>>>>> >>>>>> interesting. so how do you denote a minor release or update? >>>>>> >>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 3:35 AM: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry, >>>>>>> I did not understand your real question. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We have decided to use a release numbering scheme similar to UBUNTU. >>>>>>> 9.3 means March 2009 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>: >>>>>>> so why did ofbiz jump from 4.0 to 9.3? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bruno Busco sent the following on 2/22/2009 2:59 AM: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, >>>>>>>>>> the unresolved issues scheduled for 9.3 are: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602&resolution=-1&sorter/field=issuekey&sorter/order=DESC >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> OFBIZ-2133 has a patch ready and is actually waiting for a review. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2009/2/22 BJ Freeman <bjf...@free-man.net>: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=12310500&fixfor=12313602 >>>>>>>>>> it say release Branch 9.3 >>>>>>>>>> so no 5,6,7, or 8 >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (MingW32) >>>>>> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org >>>>>> >>>>>> iD8DBQFJoTsArP3NbaWWqE4RAnAJAJwL2QBJ5qohvu0DQGY1vKErTrZsQQCfYO3V >>>>>> R5s/zYI6xl/TJWO7Q4oOAZg= >>>>>> =Zgcv >>>>>> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >
