That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott!

Scott Gray wrote:
> That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new
> proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member.  Nobody is
> capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of
> the community at large.
>
> The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as
> much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and
> discuss each change piece by piece.  An approach such as this
> substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and
> generally improves the overall design.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi Adrian,
>>
>> For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite risky
>> that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be
>> accepted?
>>
>> Many thanks,
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to see
>>> this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local
>>> copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira.
>>>
>>> As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira issue
>>> for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it.
>>>
>>> -Adrian
>>>
>>> Michael Xu (xudong) wrote:
>>>> hi,
>>>>
>>>> Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many
>>>> times. And
>>>> it
>>>> is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders
>>>> should
>>>> lead
>>>> the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long long
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>> www.wizitsoft.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow <chsnow...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Bruno,
>>>>>
>>>>> I would like to help.  Are you coordinating efforts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Many thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bruno Busco wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>> the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is
>>>>>> definitely something the community as talken about many times. You
>>>>>> will find several conversations searching the mailing list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> topic will be much appreciated.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Bruno
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) <dong...@wizitsoft.com>:
>>>>>>> hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I
>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> the diagram is consistent with codes.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing;
>>>>> however,
>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>> I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use
>>>>>>> ContactListParty from marketing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86)
>>>>>>> 135
>>>>>>> 0135
>>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>> <dong...@wizitsoft.com>wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just found an article about the dependency:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies
>>>>>
>>>>>> From
>>>>>>>> the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all
>>>>>>>> components under framework and application in my new
>>>>>>>> application. Is
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> correct?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong)
>>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile:
>>>>>>>> (86)
>>>>> 135
>>>>>>>> 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) <
>>>>>>>> dong...@wizitsoft.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> hi all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I
>>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and
>>>>>>>>> Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very
>>>>>>>>> difficult
>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>> remove unnecessary components.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party
>>>>>>>>> uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I think
>>>>>>>>> such
>>>>>>>>> dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an
>>>>>>>>> optional
>>>>>>>>> component but party is a must.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will
>>>>>>>>> be very
>>>>>>>>> appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Michael Xu
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> View this message in context:
>>>>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> -- 
>> View this message in context:
>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p948290.html
>>
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>


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