That makes a lot of sense - thanks again Scott! Scott Gray wrote: > That risk is run by anybody who gets the ball rolling on any new > proposal, be it a contributor, committer or PMC member. Nobody is > capable of pushing through substantial change without the approval of > the community at large. > > The key for any amount of work is to collaborate with the community as > much as possible, if something is large then just break it down and > discuss each change piece by piece. An approach such as this > substantially reduces the risk that any work done will be wasted and > generally improves the overall design. > > Regards > Scott > > On 4/12/2009, at 7:27 PM, chris snow wrote: > >> >> Hi Adrian, >> >> For a change that may be substantial, could this approach be quite risky >> that a lot of time could be spent developing something that may not be >> accepted? >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Chris >> >> >> Adrian Crum wrote: >>> >>> That is not how the open source community works. If anyone wants to see >>> this move along, they need to make the desired changes to their local >>> copy, create a patch, and submit it to Jira. >>> >>> As far as coordination is concerned, there is an "umbrella" Jira issue >>> for this already. Just make new Jira issues sub-tasks of it. >>> >>> -Adrian >>> >>> Michael Xu (xudong) wrote: >>>> hi, >>>> >>>> Like Bruno mentioned, this topic has been discussed over many >>>> times. And >>>> it >>>> is time to take some actions. I really think one or more leaders >>>> should >>>> lead >>>> the process. Otherwise, the discussion might be around for a long long >>>> time. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Regards, >>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>> www.wizitsoft.com >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 7:41 PM, chris snow <chsnow...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Bruno, >>>>> >>>>> I would like to help. Are you coordinating efforts? >>>>> >>>>> Many thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Chris >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Bruno Busco wrote: >>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>> the framework isolation and a framework-only installation is >>>>>> definitely something the community as talken about many times. You >>>>>> will find several conversations searching the mailing list. >>>>>> >>>>>> We will have it sooner or later and any help you could provide on >>>>>> this >>>>>> topic will be much appreciated. >>>>>> >>>>>> -Bruno >>>>>> >>>>>> 2009/11/24 Michael Xu (xudong) <dong...@wizitsoft.com>: >>>>>>> hmm...I compared the article and the latest code from trunk. I >>>>>>> don't >>>>>>> think >>>>>>> the diagram is consistent with codes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> For example, from the diagram party doesn't depend on marketing; >>>>> however, >>>>>>> as >>>>>>> I mentioned in previous email, party entity definition does use >>>>>>> ContactListParty from marketing. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: (86) >>>>>>> 135 >>>>>>> 0135 >>>>>>> 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:16 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>> <dong...@wizitsoft.com>wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Just found an article about the dependency: >>>>>>>> >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> < >>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/Component+and+Component+Set+Dependencies >>>>> >>>>>> From >>>>>>>> the component relationship diagram, it seems I have to include all >>>>>>>> components under framework and application in my new >>>>>>>> application. Is >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>> correct? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Michael Xu (xudong) >>>>>>>> www.wizitsoft.com | Office: (8610) 6267 0615 ext 806 | Mobile: >>>>>>>> (86) >>>>> 135 >>>>>>>> 0135 9807 | Fax: (8610) 62670096 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:07 PM, Michael Xu (xudong) < >>>>>>>> dong...@wizitsoft.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> hi all, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I try to build a new application using ofbiz. Basically, I >>>>>>>>> want to >>>>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> nice overall architect of ofbiz, theme mechanism and >>>>>>>>> Party/Permission/SecurityGroup. However, I found it is very >>>>>>>>> difficult >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> remove unnecessary components. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> For example, entitymodel.xml from applications/party >>>>>>>>> uses ContactListParty, which is from marketing component. I think >>>>>>>>> such >>>>>>>>> dependency doesn't make much sense, as marketing is only an >>>>>>>>> optional >>>>>>>>> component but party is a must. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What's the best practice for my case? Advices and clues will >>>>>>>>> be very >>>>>>>>> appreciated. Thanks in advance. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Michael Xu >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> View this message in context: >>>>> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p933001.html >>>>> >>>>> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> -- >> View this message in context: >> http://n4.nabble.com/about-using-ofbiz-as-a-platform-tp786778p948290.html >> >> Sent from the OFBiz - User mailing list archive at Nabble.com. >
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