Hans,
A last request: I think we should better have a white background for the tree.
Jacques
From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
> Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy.....
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> Hans,
>>
>> Inline...
>>
>> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
>> > Jacopo,
>> >
>> > Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed
that since I was inspired by
>> > AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/
>> >
>> > Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is only Ids in it, at least we should rather have
>> > the
>> > names (with the Ids would be better). Also, if we could have different
icons for catalogs and categories...
>>
>> The reason I insist about that is because I managed some years ago to have
the categories names localized
>> (DemoProductCategoriesI18nData.xml) and this is lost now there now...
>> Also why not have the same in Order Manager and why not eCommerce?
>> Then we should also increase the size of the left panels...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> > Jacques
>> >
>> > From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>> >>I think that we should not forget about this because the fix proposed by
Jacques (thanks for this) should be considered a
>> >>temporary one... for example it doesn't take into account validity dates of the relationship; as a side note, the same
>> >>issue
>> >>(validity dates ignored) was also in the original cod committed by Hans
(see the isAlternativePacking method).
>> >>
>> >> Kind regards,
>> >>
>> >> Jacopo
>> >>
>> >> On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> Hi Hans,
>> >>>
>> >>> This has introduced a bug I fixed at r1057153
>> >>>
>> >>> The isVirtual Product attribute shows around 160 times in *form*.xml,*een*, *.gro*,*.ftl,*.java files. Of course I did
>> >>> not
>> >>> check
>> >>> them all. But I'd be surprised if your change has not introduced some
other side effects...
>> >>>
>> >>> Could youy please have a look?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>>
>> >>> Jacques
>> >>>
>> >>> From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
>> >>>> This change is now implemented in r1040908
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Related to the comment from Scott, Instead of using the existing
>> >>>> association, we have created a new product association 'Alternative
>> >>>> Packaging' to not interfere with the usage of Scott.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> An explanation can be found at:
>> >>>>
https://www.antwebsystems.com/content/control/ViewBlogArticle?articleContentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards,
>> >>>> Hans
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:06 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then
still
>> >>>>> use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage....
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
>> >>>>> > Hi Hans,
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you
haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for
>> >>>>> > you.
>> >>>>> > If > you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could show you what I mean with some example entity
>> >>>>> > xml
>> >>>>> > data. You > could then load it into a demo instance and play around
with it.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > I haven't read your proposal in detail yet but I'm not really in favor of using the isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y
>> >>>>> > combination
>> >>>>> > to >
>> >>>>> > indicate uom specific behavior. I think it is quite possible for a
product to have that combination in real life and
>> >>>>> > using
>> >>>>> > it > for something else would remove that possibility. Imagine a
variant that is itself also a virtual with its own
>> >>>>> > child
>> >>>>> > variants.
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > Regards
>> >>>>> > Scott
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > HotWax Media
>> >>>>> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > On 11/11/2010, at 8:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > > A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at:
>> >>>>> > >
http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > Regards,
>> >>>>> > > Hans
>> >>>>> > >
>> >>>>> > > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> > >> We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> We are thinking of the following:
>> >>>>> > >> you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a
variant
>> >>>>> > >> association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative
>> >>>>> > >> packaging of the product per piece and can have an adjusted price
but no
>> >>>>> > >> inventory.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Currently the e-commerce checks for the virtual flag and want to
show a
>> >>>>> > >> feature selection list, however in the case of the virtual- and
variant
>> >>>>> > >> flag both set, it should not.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> When the box of 10 is selected, The productId per piece is
selected with
>> >>>>> > >> the adjusted price of the box variant.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Comments very much appreciated.
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> Regards,
>> >>>>> > >> Hans
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >>
>> >>>>> > >> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> >>>>> > >>> For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that represents the individual items (which may or may not
>> >>>>> > >>> be
>> >>>>> > >>> for
>> >>>>> > >>> > >>> sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product that represents the box and that is associated
>> >>>>> > >>> with
>> >>>>> > >>> the
>> >>>>> > >>> > >>> individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different
product types you can choose from to have the system
>> >>>>> > >>> handle
>> >>>>> > >>> the box in > >>> different ways automatically, or you can use plain old Finished Good to handle the boxes
>> >>>>> > >>> manually.
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> For certain products all you need is the three fields already on
the Product entity:
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> quantityUomId
>> >>>>> > >>> quantityIncluded
>> >>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> For example if you have a six-pack of 12oz soda cans you would have
quantityIncluded=12, quantityUomId=oz, > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded=6.
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> -David
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> > >>>
>> >>>>> > >>>> Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does
the system
>> >>>>> > >>>> know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what
to have
>> >>>>> > >>>> the same inventory for boxes and pieces.
>> >>>>> > >>>> We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for
this
>> >>>>> > >>>> product somewhere?
>> >>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>> Thanks for you input!
>> >>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>> Regards,
>> >>>>> > >>>> Hans
>> >>>>> > >>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:39 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
>> >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Hans,
>> >>>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use different
products for different UOMs? You could use >
>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a single product page and also marketing packages to
>> >>>>> > >>>>> >
>> >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM
from the base UOM.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> Regards
>> >>>>> > >>>>> Scott
>> >>>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> HotWax Media
>> >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>> >>>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/10/2010, at 3:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>> >>>>> > >>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you BJ,
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to
the
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes
with an
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> optional price adjustment percentage.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> The system will have however only one uom where everything
gets
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> converted to.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> Anybody else other solutions?
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> Hans.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose
feed.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> added to the code that converts from what is received in
inventory to
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance a
feed store
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Receives feed in Bulk and then sacks it as inventory is
required.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> The Inventory levels have to be checked to see how many in
a product
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> run to generate to sack up the grain. This Triggers an Seca.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> I think a nice touch would be that the could generates the
product data
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> to show up in orders, based on the Uoms that were generated
for the
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> products. it would follow the same model for inventory
levels on the
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> orderentry and Ecommerce
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Hans Bakker sent the following on 10/2/2010 4:29 AM:
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> A question to the community:
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> sometimes the same products are sold with different units
of measure.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Example gold jewelry.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold
weight.
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is here a preference how to implement that?
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders,
shipments and
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> invoices...
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hans
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
>> >>>>> > >>>>>>
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