Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy.....

Regards,
Hans

On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hans,
> 
> Inline...
> 
> From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> > Jacopo,
> >
> > Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed 
> > that since I was inspired by 
> > AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/
> >
> > Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is 
> > only Ids in it, at least we should rather have the 
> > names (with the Ids would be better). Also, if  we could have different 
> > icons for catalogs and categories...
> 
> The reason I insist about that is because I managed some years ago to have 
> the categories names localized 
> (DemoProductCategoriesI18nData.xml) and this is lost now there now...
> Also why not have the same in Order Manager and why not eCommerce?
> Then we should also increase the size of the left panels...
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Jacques
> 
> > Thanks
> >
> > Jacques
> >
> > From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
> >>I think that we should not forget about this because the fix proposed by 
> >>Jacques (thanks for this) should be considered a 
> >>temporary one... for example it doesn't take into account validity dates of 
> >>the relationship; as a side note, the same issue 
> >>(validity dates ignored) was also in the original cod committed by Hans 
> >>(see the isAlternativePacking method).
> >>
> >> Kind regards,
> >>
> >> Jacopo
> >>
> >> On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi Hans,
> >>>
> >>> This has introduced a bug I fixed at r1057153
> >>>
> >>> The isVirtual Product attribute shows around 160 times in 
> >>> *form*.xml,*een*, *.gro*,*.ftl,*.java files. Of course I did not check 
> >>> them all. But I'd be surprised if your change has not introduced some 
> >>> other side effects...
> >>>
> >>> Could youy please have a look?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>>
> >>> Jacques
> >>>
> >>> From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
> >>>> This change is now implemented in r1040908
> >>>>
> >>>> Related to the comment from Scott, Instead of using the existing
> >>>> association, we have created a new product association 'Alternative
> >>>> Packaging' to not interfere with the usage of Scott.
> >>>>
> >>>> An explanation can be found at:
> >>>> https://www.antwebsystems.com/content/control/ViewBlogArticle?articleContentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hans
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:06 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>> i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then still
> >>>>> use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage....
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>> > Hi Hans,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you 
> >>>>> > haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for you. 
> >>>>> > If > you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could 
> >>>>> > show you what I mean with some example entity xml 
> >>>>> > data. You > could then load it into a demo instance and play around 
> >>>>> > with it.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I haven't read your proposal in detail yet but I'm not really in 
> >>>>> > favor of using the isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y combination to > 
> >>>>> > indicate uom specific behavior.  I think it is quite possible for a 
> >>>>> > product to have that combination in real life and using 
> >>>>> > it > for something else would remove that possibility.  Imagine a 
> >>>>> > variant that is itself also a virtual with its own child 
> >>>>> > variants.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Regards
> >>>>> > Scott
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > HotWax Media
> >>>>> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > On 11/11/2010, at 8:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > > A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at:
> >>>>> > > http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > Regards,
> >>>>> > > Hans
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>> > >> We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> We are thinking of the following:
> >>>>> > >> you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a 
> >>>>> > >> variant
> >>>>> > >> association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative
> >>>>> > >> packaging of the product per piece and can have an adjusted price 
> >>>>> > >> but no
> >>>>> > >> inventory.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Currently the e-commerce checks for the virtual flag and want to 
> >>>>> > >> show a
> >>>>> > >> feature selection list, however in the case of the virtual- and 
> >>>>> > >> variant
> >>>>> > >> flag both set, it should not.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> When the box of 10 is selected, The productId per piece is 
> >>>>> > >> selected with
> >>>>> > >> the adjusted price of the box variant.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Comments very much appreciated.
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> Regards,
> >>>>> > >> Hans
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>>>> > >>> For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that 
> >>>>> > >>> represents the individual items (which may or may not be for 
> >>>>> > >>>  > >>> sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product 
> >>>>> > >>> that represents the box and that is associated with the 
> >>>>> > >>>  > >>> individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different 
> >>>>> > >>> product types you can choose from to have the system handle 
> >>>>> > >>> the box in > >>> different ways automatically, or you can use 
> >>>>> > >>> plain old Finished Good to handle the boxes manually.
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>> For certain products all you need is the three fields already on 
> >>>>> > >>> the Product entity:
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>> quantityUomId
> >>>>> > >>> quantityIncluded
> >>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>> For example if you have a six-pack of 12oz soda cans you would 
> >>>>> > >>> have quantityIncluded=12, quantityUomId=oz, > >>> 
> >>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded=6.
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>> -David
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>>> Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does 
> >>>>> > >>>> the system
> >>>>> > >>>> know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what 
> >>>>> > >>>> to have
> >>>>> > >>>> the same inventory for boxes and pieces.
> >>>>> > >>>> We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for 
> >>>>> > >>>> this
> >>>>> > >>>> product somewhere?
> >>>>> > >>>>
> >>>>> > >>>> Thanks for you input!
> >>>>> > >>>>
> >>>>> > >>>> Regards,
> >>>>> > >>>> Hans
> >>>>> > >>>>
> >>>>> > >>>> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:39 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>> > >>>>> Hi Hans,
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>> Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use 
> >>>>> > >>>>> different products for different UOMs?  You could use > >>>>> 
> >>>>> > >>>>> virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a 
> >>>>> > >>>>> single product page and also marketing packages to > 
> >>>>> > >>>>>  >>>>> automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM from 
> >>>>> > >>>>> the base UOM.
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> > >>>>> Scott
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>> > >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>> On 3/10/2010, at 3:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you BJ,
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to 
> >>>>> > >>>>>> the
> >>>>> > >>>>>> product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes 
> >>>>> > >>>>>> with an
> >>>>> > >>>>>> optional price adjustment percentage.
> >>>>> > >>>>>> The system will have however only one uom where everything gets
> >>>>> > >>>>>> converted to.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> Anybody else other solutions?
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> > >>>>>> Hans.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> feed.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> added to the code that converts from what is received in 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> inventory to
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance a feed 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> store
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Receives feed in Bulk and then sacks it as inventory is 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> required.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> The Inventory levels have to be checked  to see how many in a 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> product
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> run to generate to sack up the grain. This Triggers an Seca.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> I think a nice touch would be that the could generates the 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> product data
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> to show up in orders, based on the Uoms that were generated 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> for the
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> products. it would follow the same model for inventory levels 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> on the
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> orderentry and Ecommerce
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>> Hans Bakker sent the following on 10/2/2010 4:29 AM:
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> A question to the community:
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> sometimes the same products are sold with different units of 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> measure.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Example gold jewelry.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> weight.
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is here a preference how to implement that?
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders, 
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> shipments and
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> invoices...
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hans
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>>> > >>>>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
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> >>>>> > >>>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>>
> >>>>> > >>>>
> >>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>>> > >>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
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> >>>>> > >>>>
> >>>>> > >>>
> >>>>> > >>
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> > > -- > > Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
> >>>>> > > Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
> >>>>> > > Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
> >>>>> > >
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> -- 
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > 
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