i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then still
use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage....
On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> Hi Hans,
>
> I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for you. If
> you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could show you what I mean with some example entity xml data. You
> could then load it into a demo instance and play around with it.
>
> I haven't read your proposal in detail yet but I'm not really in favor of using the isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y combination to
> indicate uom specific behavior. I think it is quite possible for a product to have that combination in real life and using it
> for something else would remove that possibility. Imagine a variant that is itself also a virtual with its own child variants.
>
> Regards
> Scott
>
> HotWax Media
> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>
> On 11/11/2010, at 8:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at:
> >
http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
> >
> > Regards,
> > Hans
> >
> > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >> We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated.
> >>
> >> We are thinking of the following:
> >> you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten.
> >>
> >> Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a variant
> >> association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative
> >> packaging of the product per piece and can have an adjusted price but no
> >> inventory.
> >>
> >> Currently the e-commerce checks for the virtual flag and want to show a
> >> feature selection list, however in the case of the virtual- and variant
> >> flag both set, it should not.
> >>
> >> When the box of 10 is selected, The productId per piece is selected with
> >> the adjusted price of the box variant.
> >>
> >> Comments very much appreciated.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Hans
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >>> For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that represents the individual items (which may or may not be for
> >>> sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product that represents the box and that is associated with the
> >>> individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different product types you can choose from to have the system handle the box in
> >>> different ways automatically, or you can use plain old Finished Good to handle the boxes manually.
> >>>
> >>> For certain products all you need is the three fields already on the
Product entity:
> >>>
> >>> quantityUomId
> >>> quantityIncluded
> >>> piecesIncluded
> >>>
> >>> For example if you have a six-pack of 12oz soda cans you would have quantityIncluded=12, quantityUomId=oz,
> >>> piecesIncluded=6.
> >>>
> >>> -David
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does the system
> >>>> know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what to have
> >>>> the same inventory for boxes and pieces.
> >>>> We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for this
> >>>> product somewhere?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for you input!
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Hans
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:39 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
> >>>>> Hi Hans,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use different products for different UOMs? You could use
> >>>>> virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a single product page and also marketing packages to
> >>>>> automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM from the base UOM.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Regards
> >>>>> Scott
> >>>>>
> >>>>> HotWax Media
> >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 3/10/2010, at 3:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thank you BJ,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to the
> >>>>>> product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes with an
> >>>>>> optional price adjustment percentage.
> >>>>>> The system will have however only one uom where everything gets
> >>>>>> converted to.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Anybody else other solutions?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Hans.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
> >>>>>>> Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose feed.
> >>>>>>> I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure
> >>>>>>> in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> added to the code that converts from what is received in inventory to
> >>>>>>> what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance a feed store
> >>>>>>> Receives feed in Bulk and then sacks it as inventory is required.
> >>>>>>> The Inventory levels have to be checked to see how many in a product
> >>>>>>> run to generate to sack up the grain. This Triggers an Seca.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think a nice touch would be that the could generates the product
data
> >>>>>>> to show up in orders, based on the Uoms that were generated for the
> >>>>>>> products. it would follow the same model for inventory levels on the
> >>>>>>> orderentry and Ecommerce
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hans Bakker sent the following on 10/2/2010 4:29 AM:
> >>>>>>>> A question to the community:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> sometimes the same products are sold with different units of measure.
> >>>>>>>> Example gold jewelry.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold weight.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Is here a preference how to implement that?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders, shipments and
> >>>>>>>> invoices...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Hans
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> --
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> >>>>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
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> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >
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