Hans,

A last request: I think we should better have a white background for the tree.

Jacques

From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
Hi Jacques, were are looking at it but very busy.....

Regards,
Hans

On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 18:37 +0100, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
Hans,

Inline...

From: "Jacques Le Roux" <jacques.le.r...@les7arts.com>
> Jacopo,
>
> Well spotted! I have fixed your concern at r1059279. I wonder how I missed 
that since I was inspired by
> AgreementServices.getCommissionForProduct() :/
>
> Hans: also could you please look at the catalogs/categories tree: there is 
only Ids in it, at least we should rather have the
> names (with the Ids would be better). Also, if  we could have different icons 
for catalogs and categories...

The reason I insist about that is because I managed some years ago to have the 
categories names localized
(DemoProductCategoriesI18nData.xml) and this is lost now there now...
Also why not have the same in Order Manager and why not eCommerce?
Then we should also increase the size of the left panels...

Thanks

Jacques

> Thanks
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Jacopo Cappellato" <jacopo.cappell...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>>I think that we should not forget about this because the fix proposed by 
Jacques (thanks for this) should be considered a
>>temporary one... for example it doesn't take into account validity dates of 
the relationship; as a side note, the same issue
>>(validity dates ignored) was also in the original cod committed by Hans (see 
the isAlternativePacking method).
>>
>> Kind regards,
>>
>> Jacopo
>>
>> On Jan 10, 2011, at 12:27 PM, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Hans,
>>>
>>> This has introduced a bug I fixed at r1057153
>>>
>>> The isVirtual Product attribute shows around 160 times in *form*.xml,*een*, *.gro*,*.ftl,*.java files. Of course I did not >>> check
>>> them all. But I'd be surprised if your change has not introduced some other 
side effects...
>>>
>>> Could youy please have a look?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Jacques
>>>
>>> From: "Hans Bakker" <mailingl...@antwebsystems.com>
>>>> This change is now implemented in r1040908
>>>>
>>>> Related to the comment from Scott, Instead of using the existing
>>>> association, we have created a new product association 'Alternative
>>>> Packaging' to not interfere with the usage of Scott.
>>>>
>>>> An explanation can be found at:
>>>> 
https://www.antwebsystems.com/content/control/ViewBlogArticle?articleContentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Hans
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 16:06 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> i could also add a new association type "alternative Uom" and then still
>>>>> use isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y...which would not block your usage....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 21:34 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>> > Hi Hans,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I'm still in favor of the approach that I suggested earlier and you haven't really mentioned why it wouldn't work for >>>>> > you.
>>>>> > If > you like and if you are willing to wait a couple of days I could 
show you what I mean with some example entity xml
>>>>> > data. You > could then load it into a demo instance and play around 
with it.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > I haven't read your proposal in detail yet but I'm not really in favor of using the isVirtual=Y/isVariant=Y combination >>>>> > to > >>>>> > indicate uom specific behavior. I think it is quite possible for a product to have that combination in real life and >>>>> > using >>>>> > it > for something else would remove that possibility. Imagine a variant that is itself also a virtual with its own >>>>> > child
>>>>> > variants.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Regards
>>>>> > Scott
>>>>> >
>>>>> > HotWax Media
>>>>> > http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 11/11/2010, at 8:46 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > > A longer explanation how we want to implement this can be found at:
>>>>> > > 
http://www.antwebsystems.com/control/ViewBlogArticle?contentId=16750&blogContentId=AWS_BLOG
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Regards,
>>>>> > > Hans
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Wed, 2010-11-10 at 16:52 +0700, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> > >> We are are still getting the best solution, help appreciated.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> We are thinking of the following:
>>>>> > >> you have a product which you sell in pieces and boxes of ten.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Then the product per piece is the lowest denominator and has a 
variant
>>>>> > >> association to a virtual/variant product which is an alternative
>>>>> > >> packaging of the product per piece and can have an adjusted price 
but no
>>>>> > >> inventory.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Currently the e-commerce checks for the virtual flag and want to 
show a
>>>>> > >> feature selection list, however in the case of the virtual- and 
variant
>>>>> > >> flag both set, it should not.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> When the box of 10 is selected, The productId per piece is selected 
with
>>>>> > >> the adjusted price of the box variant.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Comments very much appreciated.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Regards,
>>>>> > >> Hans
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 12:13 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> > >>> For boxes of a product you'll usually have one product that represents the individual items (which may or may not be >>>>> > >>> for >>>>> > >>> > >>> sale directly to the customer), and one that is a product that represents the box and that is associated with >>>>> > >>> the >>>>> > >>> > >>> individual item. In OFBiz there are a few different product types you can choose from to have the system >>>>> > >>> handle
>>>>> > >>> the box in > >>> different ways automatically, or you can use plain 
old Finished Good to handle the boxes manually.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> For certain products all you need is the three fields already on 
the Product entity:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> quantityUomId
>>>>> > >>> quantityIncluded
>>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> For example if you have a six-pack of 12oz soda cans you would have 
quantityIncluded=12, quantityUomId=oz, > >>>
>>>>> > >>> piecesIncluded=6.
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> -David
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>> On Oct 2, 2010, at 11:02 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>>> Hi Scott, this is sure an interesting idea, but then how does the 
system
>>>>> > >>>> know that they are for example 10 pieces in a box? I still what to 
have
>>>>> > >>>> the same inventory for boxes and pieces.
>>>>> > >>>> We should be able to store the conversion between the uom's for 
this
>>>>> > >>>> product somewhere?
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Thanks for you input!
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> Regards,
>>>>> > >>>> Hans
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> On Sun, 2010-10-03 at 17:39 +1300, Scott Gray wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>> Hi Hans,
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> Sorry if this is a silly question, but why not just use different products for different UOMs? You could use > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> virtual/variants if you wanted the UOM to be selectable on a single 
product page and also marketing packages to >
>>>>> > >>>>>  >>>>> automatically produce inventory for the desired UOM from 
the base UOM.
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> Regards
>>>>> > >>>>> Scott
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> HotWax Media
>>>>> > >>>>> http://www.hotwaxmedia.com
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>> On 3/10/2010, at 3:54 PM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> Thank you BJ,
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> I had in mind to create and 'productUomAlternatives' table to the
>>>>> > >>>>>> product with a conversion for example from pieces to boxes with 
an
>>>>> > >>>>>> optional price adjustment percentage.
>>>>> > >>>>>> The system will have however only one uom where everything gets
>>>>> > >>>>>> converted to.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> Anybody else other solutions?
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> > >>>>>> Hans.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> On Sat, 2010-10-02 at 10:21 -0700, BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Yes also like a Feed store will have boxes, Sacks, and loose 
feed.
>>>>> > >>>>>>> I used the multiple pricing model for the Uom Measure
>>>>> > >>>>>>> in the product screen made it allow multiple UOM.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> added to the code that converts from what is received in 
inventory to
>>>>> > >>>>>>> what is sold so it walks through the Uom. for instance a feed 
store
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Receives feed in Bulk and then sacks it as inventory is 
required.
>>>>> > >>>>>>> The Inventory levels have to be checked  to see how many in a 
product
>>>>> > >>>>>>> run to generate to sack up the grain. This Triggers an Seca.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> I think a nice touch would be that the could generates the 
product data
>>>>> > >>>>>>> to show up in orders, based on the Uoms that were generated for 
the
>>>>> > >>>>>>> products. it would follow the same model for inventory levels 
on the
>>>>> > >>>>>>> orderentry and Ecommerce
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hans Bakker sent the following on 10/2/2010 4:29 AM:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> A question to the community:
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> sometimes the same products are sold with different units of 
measure.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Example gold jewelry.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Per piece, per box of 10, per box of 50 and per gram gold 
weight.
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Is here a preference how to implement that?
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Remember this has to show up in e-commerce, orders, shipments 
and
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> invoices...
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Hans
>>>>> > >>>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
>>>>> > >>>>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
>>>>> > >>>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
>>>>> > >>>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>>
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>> -- > >>>> Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
>>>>> > >>>> Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
>>>>> > >>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
>>>>> > >>>>
>>>>> > >>>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > -- > > Ofbiz on twitter: http://twitter.com/apache_ofbiz
>>>>> > > Myself on twitter: http://twitter.com/hansbak
>>>>> > > Antwebsystems.com: Quality services for competitive rates.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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