show me where you had participation of the user (those that have production system) base, for gotcha they perceived.
or a note in the user ml that there is a discussion.
most users are given the impression they can not participated on the dev list which is not the case, when discussing ofbiz changes.


My focus is my original understanding of ofbiz.
as an example, ofbiz let me develop a UI that uses SWT, yet the same code could be used with the standard UI. the Key is all the UI options should be just that, options, that can be configured to be used. the most recent discussion that covers this is Jquery. This should be configurable. the other point is it is great to add but not remove or change the characteristics, without some upgrade path and/or documentation.
The reason behind this is ROI.
As long as ofbiz does not support this standard protocol, Imho, ofbiz will not be at the level of use of SAGE without this.

In the discussion about breaking up ofbiz, I don't agree that ofbiz need to be broken up, Just the patterns originally proposed be followed.

as far as flatgrey  I am with mike.
keep the original and make the updated one flatgreyII.

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Adrian Crum sent the following on 1/20/2011 6:56 PM:


That's not true. Every change is discussed and debated.

The OFBiz developers and the PMC don't live in a vacuum - they have production 
systems to maintain. It is silly to think they would not consider those 
production systems when proposing changes.

-Adrian

--- On Thu, 1/20/11, BJ Freeman<bjf...@free-man.net>  wrote:
you will find that the ofbiz
developer group first priority is to change
before considering the effect on production systemm using
offbiz.
something I lobby against, but has little effect.
so I have a system to accomplish this regardless of what
they do.


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Mike sent the following on 1/20/2011 3:38 PM:
But why delete it?  Alot of folks learned ofbiz
on flatgrey, and their
employees are used to it.  At least keep it
around as flatgrey_old.

On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 3:30 PM, Adrian Crum<adri...@hlmksw.com>
wrote:
That theme was starting to look old, so the
developer community decided to
update it.

If you prefer the old version of the theme, you
are welcome to replace the
new one with it.

-Adrian

On 1/20/2011 3:21 PM, Mike wrote:

I just loaded trunk and discovered that the
normal flatgrey theme has
been completely redefined.  What
happened?  I thought it was actually
the best theme that was very well
organized.  Is there a way to get it
back?









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