I study at the University in Madrid, Spain and in these months of
confinement we are attending virtual classes. The university is using
solutions from large companies like Microsoft Teams and I doubt that any
university center will test with an audience of 100+ people with a
solution that it hardly knows and for which it will not obtain
commercial support. In addition there are important security and
confidentiality issues.
I have never tested more than six people in a conference room with open
cameras and microphone for those six users. I think we should try more
discreet scenarios to start with. Perhaps with 30, 40 or 50 users in
presentation rooms with a presenter and the rest of the users just
listening. Or a conference room with at least 20 or 30 attendees. Under
these conditions, it will be easier to see if there are bandwidth,
stability or infrastructure problems.
I am running an instance of openmeetings on a VPS server with the
following characteristics:
* 8 cores Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2630 v4 @ 2.20GHz
* 30 GB RAM
* 800 GB SSD Disk
* 600 Mbit/s port
And I would like to know what such an installation is capable of. Just that.
I think there are enough users on this list to do those tests and move
on for sure before trying to get some official test done on a larger scale.
Greetings.
PD: My offer for Saturday still stands.
El 14/5/20 a las 22:05, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
For instance there might be a way to contact some of the users of the
openmeetings-moodle plugin if they have a large enough audience. And
happy to conduct some test session.
I am mainly looking at the following scenario:
1 presenter x 100 viewers
Issues we had in the past:
1) 50+ people entering the conference room at the exact same time.
Some issues in race conditions. As well as performance on the UI when
multiple new users get initialised.
2) Multiple videos streams starting at the same time on the Media Server
3) General stability over following few minutes and bandwidth usage
4) People dropping on and off during the meeting, potentially
reconnecting. Making sure their stream + UI stays clean. For example
no stale/ghost connections in the background created
5) Teacher changes stream, while having 100+ viewers. Everybody
reconnects to the new stream
6) Clean stop once finishing, no stale/ghost connections left in room
after conference is finished
Those some of the points. No (1) was the biggest issue. (1) is a
scaling and load issue. Similar to (4) + (5). And you can only
encounter during those scenarios.
Some of the others you -may- be able to already see in smaller setups
with 10 people. Cause those are more logical issues. But others will
depend on having a large audience actually in the room.
I wonder theses days if you could spin up 100+ AWS containers with
Ubuntu desktop doing the testing :) It would be actually potentially
easier to simulate in an automated way using Android tablets. Cause
those could be probably more easily automated using Mobile Device
Testing Farms.
But there would be obviously an infrastructure cost to this.
Nevertheless, this has always been the make or break test when it
comes for larger companies or universities in order to use it.
Cheers
Seb
Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 07:51, seba.wag...@gmail.com
<mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com> <seba.wag...@gmail.com
<mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com>> wrote:
That sounds like a good initiative Juan. And some classic literature!
I would hope we can find over time some better support in a larger
group with 100+ people.
@Maxim Solodovnik <mailto:solomax...@gmail.com> Is there a
document describing how to update
https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/
<https://demo-openmeetings.apache.org/o> ?
Maybe we can make that instance available and then start
approaching somebody that has a larger group of 100+ people ?
I'm sure if we contact some universities we can find
somebody willing to help.
Thanks,
Sebastian
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Director Arrakeen Solutions
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On Fri, 15 May 2020 at 06:33, Juan Antonio Moreno Carmona
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Hi all.
I think it's a good idea. I have an openmeetings installation
that we could use to do those tests. But I have to count on
you. I have prepared a room with a pdf document and a sound
file (an .ogg file). The pdf document is the third chapter of
Hermann Melville's book 'Moby Dick' and the audio file is read
in English.
I can send an invitation by email to anyone who confirms that
they are interested in attending this presentation. The more
we are, the more useful the test will be.
I propose next Saturday as the appropriate date and could open
the room at the following times, (all GMT) 8:00, 11:00, 16:00
and 19:00. The audio file lasts approximately 35 minutes. I am
at GMT + 2 (CET).
What do you think about?
We can even do a test this afternoon at eight, in about an
hour and a half, with users who can attend at that time.
Regards.
El 14/5/20 a las 1:03, seba.wag...@gmail.com
<mailto:seba.wag...@gmail.com> escribió:
How are we doing in terms of Load Testing ?
I don't mind so much feature completeness or 100% replicating
what was in 4.x.
But I am mindful of the backlash in terms of being production
ready if we have issues in scaling up to 100+ concurrent users.
Do we have any positive results/feedback/scenarios on that ?
Can we do anything to de-risk this and confirm we are ready
for production ?
Are there any users on this list that can help us and that
can run a low risk scenario with 100+ users in a presentation
conference room ?
Thanks,
Seb
Sebastian Wagner
Director Arrakeen Solutions
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On Thu, 14 May 2020 at 08:55, K. Kamhamea
<kamha...@googlemail.com <mailto:kamha...@googlemail.com>> wrote:
Please can someone explain?
I understand that SIP has something to do with IP
telephones, but what does that mean to OM functionality?
Best K.
Am Mi., 13. Mai 2020 um 18:15 Uhr schrieb R. Scholz
<rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de
<mailto:rene.sch...@abakus-edv-systems.de>>:
Hello Maxim,
at this moment two things are important for me:
- calling a room directly with room-name
- SIP-support
Best regards,
René
Am 13.05.2020 um 17:59 schrieb Maxim Solodovnik:
On Wed, 13 May 2020 at 22:55, Rohrbach, Gerald
<g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de
<mailto:g.rohrb...@funkegruppe.de>> wrote:
Maxim,
cool, you are coming forward…
SIP Next Release means 6.0.0?
This need to be discussed separately, but I would
say 5.1.0 :)
Gerald
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<mailto:solomax...@gmail.com>]
*Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 17:47
*An:* Openmeetings user-list
<user@openmeetings.apache.org
<mailto:user@openmeetings.apache.org>>
*Betreff:* [DISCUSSION] next release
Hello All,
Today I've noticed we already addressed 41 issue
for M5
I would like to perform next release as soon as
current `master` will be even more stable
And release it as "5.0.0" (NOT 5.0.0-M5)
I plan to include
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2297
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2236
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/OPENMEETINGS-2217
to upcoming release as well
there is no ETA yet due to
1) we still have reports regarding stability
2) we are waiting for Apache Wicket release
please let me know if you see other blockers :)
SIP most probably will go to the next release
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Best regards,
Maxim
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Best regards,
Maxim
