Oh sure! I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
If you test with those additionally on https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!) @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com> from my tests actually my Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't! I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in Safari, or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API (and Safari13 exposing that in some way). Thanks, Seb Sebastian Wagner Director Arrakeen Solutions http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hello Sebastian, > > Could you please be a little more explicite? > > Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive > partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to > other OSX, and that is a little heavy. > > So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test, > with what browser and what examples in concret? > > There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes > in the iMac, is also Yosemite). > > Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing. > > > > ........................... > > > > El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió: > > Could you try also some of the official examples from: > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/ > > For example: > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/ > or > https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/ > > You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop (which > is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does playback > the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it will lead > to a audio-feedback loop/noise. > > On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to work. > > Thanks, > Sebastian > > Sebastian Wagner > Director Arrakeen Solutions > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat. > > > ..................... > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > Ok, here is my test in: > > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings > > > > *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* > > When try recording appear a red message: > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > Can't record (play) > > =============== > > > *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* > > When try recording appear a red message: > > OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields > > Can't record (play) > > =============== > > > *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES* > > Can't record (play) > > =============== > > > *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* > > Can't record (play) > > =============== > > > *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO* > > Can't record (play) > > =============== > > Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me, > but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like > me, can understand. > > > > ------------------------------------- > > > > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió: > > ...am updatimg the OSes OSX. > > Sorry to read only the first parte of the url. > > > ................ > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > Hello Alvaro, > > Please re-read my message > > ============= > Hello Safari owners :) > Could you please visit > https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is > it works as expected in Safari browser (11+) > Thanks in advance :)) > ============= > > Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with 11? > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > OSX 10.15.6 -- Safari 13.1.2 -- Private room ==> No green bar > mic > In one hour will test other safari versions. > > .................... > > > > El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft > > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected > > in Safari browser (11+) > > Thanks in advance :)) > > > > @Sebastian, > > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should > > be added to OM UI .... > > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ... > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmai > > l.com> wrote: > > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine. > > > Will we issue a warning though somehow? > > > > > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time > > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they > > > won't try again. > > > > > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta > > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not > > > getting angry! > > > > > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for > > > example? > > > > > > Thanks > > > Seb > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Yes, release as-is... > > > > > > > > ................. > > > > > > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió: > > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at > > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be > > > > > improved > > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow) > > > > > > > > > > @All, > > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to > > > > > investigate Safari 11 ? > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagne > > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github. > > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work > > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac. > > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems > > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream. > > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled. > > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using > > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome > > > > > > however works fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm > > > > > > ail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC" > > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13? > > > > > > > Can you "play" with options? > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.w > > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for > > > > > > > > audio/video: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa > > > > > > > > ri_11 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and > > > > > > > > audio > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture > > > > > > > > API, Resource > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki > > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history# > > > > > > > > cite_note-63> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release- > > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to > > > > > > > > get a few more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or > > > > > > > > not. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af > > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f > > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66 > > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM > > > > > > > > :((( > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to > > > > > > > > internet (maybe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <se > > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Seb > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968 > > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02 > > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma > > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> My steps were > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours, > > > > > > > > please let me know > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on > > > > > > > > iOS does not capture > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> audio. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But > > > > > > > > capturing audio does not > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> work. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we > > > > > > > > established that that's the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> cause) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio > > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> setup > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some > > > > > > > > code change on our > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples > > > > > > > > broken for > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser > > > > > > > > media/audio/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC : > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G > > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings > > > > > > > > is rather complex. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> As > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see > > > > > > > > a simple minimal > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> code > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm > > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> in > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach > > > > > > > > this ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss- > > > > > > > > webRTC I would also > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> like > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496 > > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0 > > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > Maxim > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > Maxim > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Maxim > > > > -- > Best regards, > Maxim > > >
