Hello Jason,

Thanks, that would be awesome :)
Does remote control for Mac allows to hear the sound? (overwise I can't
test it ...)

On Fri, 14 Aug 2020 at 22:18, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:

> I can give you remote access to a Mac to test.
>
> J
>
>
>
> On Friday, Aug 14, 2020 at 8:48 AM, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> I'll try to ask if any of my friends owns Mac with latest Safari
> maybe I can borrow Mac to debug ...
>
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 at 14:04, <seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Nothing todo.
>> I was just updating on what I found out.
>>
>> So far the status is: confirming if issue is with Apple or not.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Seb
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 12/08/2020, at 6:48 PM, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> Hello Sebastian, i don't understand the means of your message.
>>
>> If i can do something, please tell me clear what...
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> .................
>>
>>
>> El lun, 10-08-2020 a las 15:18 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> The webRTC issue is also manifesting in the official webRTC reference
>> code examples at:
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/
>>
>> I do think other products will have the same issue on Safari13. But I
>> would be worth validating.
>>
>> Somebody from Apple got in touch with me, and suggested that I submit a
>> ticket to bugs.webkit.org and attach sysdiagnose.
>>
>> So I may try that and see if that gives some results.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 18:00, Jason <ja...@romos.net> wrote:
>>
>> I do see a few other video conferring products that have an app as well
>> as web based that are working on the iPad for the mic issue.  They are open
>> source so we could look and see what they did to resolve the issue.
>>
>> J
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, Aug 08, 2020 at 12:11 AM, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> There doesn't seem to be much replies on the webRTC forums.
>>
>> My only ideas are around usage of the MediaStreamConstraints and some
>> special Safari settings that need to be considered:
>>
>> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/MediaStreamConstraints/audio
>>
>> But there is very little in terms of finding out what
>> capabilities/MediaStreamConstraints Safari13 would support.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
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>>
>>
>> On Thu, 30 Jul 2020 at 02:54, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Not sure if I can help :(
>> I only have access to iMac which works as expected (can't fix something I
>> can't reproduce :(( )
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:28, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Ok, these are the result
>>
>>
>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
>>
>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *YES*
>>
>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound looping *NO*
>>
>> *===========*
>>
>> In https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/
>>
>> # OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound super sensitive
>>
>> # OSX *10.14.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic sound no sensitive and
>> dry
>>
>> ...something more? ...Avanti!
>>
>>
>> ..............
>>
>>
>>
>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 18:51 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> Oh sure!
>>
>> I am just interested in - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>>
>> If you test with those additionally on
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
>>
>> and check if you get some feedback loop (that means its working!)
>>
>> @Maxim Solodovnik <solomax...@gmail.com>  from my tests actually my
>> Safari works fine with some of those webRTC examples. Still very strange
>> how old Safari versions would work and later ones don't!
>> I am still not sure if this issue is related to an API change in Safari,
>> or if there something wrong with how OpenMeetings is using the API (and
>> Safari13 exposing that in some way).
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Seb
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 17:46, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hello Sebastian,
>>
>> Could you please be a little more explicite?
>>
>> Each OSX in my iMac it is installed on a phiyical hard drive
>> partition, then i must reboot the machine to go from one to
>> other OSX, and that is a little heavy.
>>
>> So, could you say me in wich OSX you want i make the test,
>> with what browser and what examples in concret?
>>
>> There is around 43 examples. 43X6 = 258 test (6 are my OSXes
>> in the iMac, is also Yosemite).
>>
>> Please tell me, and with pleasure i wil make the testing.
>>
>>
>>
>> ...........................
>>
>>
>>
>> El mié, 29-07-2020 a las 09:16 +1200, seba.wag...@gmail.com escribió:
>>
>> Could you try also some of the official examples from:
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/
>>
>> For example:
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/input-output/
>> or
>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/devices/multi/
>>
>> You will notice on Chrome you will get an immediate feedback loop (which
>> is quite annoying :)) But it actually means that it works! It does playback
>> the sound directly again, and if you are not using a headset, it will lead
>> to a audio-feedback loop/noise.
>>
>> On Safari I have limited success with those. But they still seem to work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Sebastian
>>
>> Sebastian Wagner
>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>>
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>> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 29 Jul 2020 at 02:44, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> ...'ve reloaded the page many times and no changes resultat.
>>
>>
>> .....................
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 16:11 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>>
>> Ok, here is my test in:
>>
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings
>>
>>
>>
>> *#* OSX *10.11.6* - Safari *11.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>>
>> When try recording appear a red message:
>>
>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>>
>> Can't record (play)
>>
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> *#* OSX *10.12.6* - Safari *12.0.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>>
>> When try recording appear a red message:
>>
>> OperationError: Expect at least 4 fields
>>
>> Can't record (play)
>>
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> *# *OSX *10.13.6* - Safari *12.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *YES*
>>
>> Can't record (play)
>>
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> *# *OSX *10.14.6 * - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>>
>> Can't record (play)
>>
>> ===============
>>
>>
>> *#* OSX *10.15.6* - Safari *13.1.2* - Cam yes - Mic green bar *NO*
>>
>> Can't record (play)
>>
>> ===============
>>
>> Well Maxim, if is needed to test in any other way, please tell me,
>> but with words that those have not the tecnical knowting, like
>> me, can understand.
>>
>>
>>
>> -------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 14:41 +0200, Alvaro escribió:
>>
>> ...am updatimg the OSes OSX.
>>
>> Sorry to read only the first parte of the url.
>>
>>
>> ................
>>
>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 18:54 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>>
>> Hello Alvaro,
>>
>> Please re-read my message
>>
>> =============
>> Hello Safari owners :)
>> Could you please visit
>> https://om.alteametasoft.com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is
>> it works as expected in Safari browser (11+)
>> Thanks in advance :))
>> =============
>>
>> Could you please test this page with all Safari versions starting with 11?
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 18:03, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> OSX  10.15.6  --  Safari 13.1.2  --  Private room  ==>  No green bar
>> mic
>> In one hour will test other safari versions.
>>
>> ....................
>>
>>
>>
>> El mar, 28-07-2020 a las 08:02 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>> > Hello Safari owners :)Could you please visit https://om.alteametasoft
>> > .com:8443/next/hash?app=settings and tell me is it works as expected
>> > in Safari browser (11+)
>> > Thanks in advance :))
>> >
>> > @Sebastian,
>> > It is great idea to add NOTICE for Safari 13, I'm not sure It should
>> > be added to OM UI ....
>> > Adding to UI means we have to add it to 35 languages and maintain ...
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 06:02, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagner@gmai
>> > l.com> wrote:
>> > > If it's just limited to Safari13 then its prob fine.
>> > > Will we issue a warning though somehow?
>> > >
>> > > The experience for a brand new user trying it for the first time
>> > > usually means they consider the application not ready and they
>> > > won't try again.
>> > >
>> > > So having some warning saying "Safari13 is currently only beta
>> > > support" it would definitely help a lot to manage those users not
>> > > getting angry!
>> > >
>> > > We could just add a simple warning info text on the login page for
>> > > example?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks
>> > > Seb
>> > >
>> > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Tue, 28 Jul 2020 at 00:11, Alvaro <zurca...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > Yes, release as-is...
>> > > >
>> > > > .................
>> > > >
>> > > > El lun, 27-07-2020 a las 13:14 +0700, Maxim Solodovnik escribió:
>> > > > > I was hoping Develop->WebRTC switches can enable sound at
>> > > > > Safari 13And this might give as some insight of what can be
>> > > > > improved
>> > > > > (not sure if generic test application is useful anyhow)
>> > > > >
>> > > > > @All,
>> > > > > Shall we release as-is or spent additional month+ trying to
>> > > > > investigate Safari 11 ?
>> > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 13:07, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.wagne
>> > > > > r...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > No but the generic test application at https://webrtc.github.
>> > > > > > io/samples/src/content/getusermedia/audio/ seems to work
>> > > > > > better now after restarting my Mac.
>> > > > > > However the OpenMeetings application setup application seems
>> > > > > > to not do much when recording the stream.
>> > > > > > And there is no level-meter when audio/mic is enabled.
>> > > > > > And there is no sound output on a 2nd device when using
>> > > > > > Safari13 and enabling mic on the Safari device. Chrome
>> > > > > > however works fine.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Thanks
>> > > > > > Seb
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:45, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax666@gm
>> > > > > > ail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > While testing with Safari 11 I noticed some "WebRTC"
>> > > > > > > submenu in "Develop" menuDo you have it on Safari 13?
>> > > > > > > Can you "play" with options?
>> > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:43, seba.wag...@gmail.com <seba.w
>> > > > > > > ag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > > I think in Safari 11 they introduced support for
>> > > > > > > > audio/video:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#Safa
>> > > > > > > > ri_11
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    - Includes updated media controls for HTML5 video and
>> > > > > > > > audio
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    - Adds support for new web technologies such as WebRTC
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebRTC>, Media Capture
>> > > > > > > > API, Resource
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    Timing API, WebAssembly <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
>> > > > > > > > /WebAssembly>,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    variable fonts, CSS strokes and more.[63]
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safari_version_history#
>> > > > > > > > cite_note-63>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > But then in Safari 13 there are quite a lot of changes
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-
>> > > > > > > > notes/safari-13-release-notes
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Hm in terms of releasing, I am not sure, would be good to
>> > > > > > > > get a few more
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > users to confirm on Safari13.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > If the issue is really a generic Safari13 limitation or
>> > > > > > > > not.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Seb
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Sebastian Wagner
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968-af
>> > > > > > > > 6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02-9f
>> > > > > > > > af-099038475e36/public_url>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:38, Maxim Solodovnik <solomax66
>> > > > > > > > 6...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Well,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I'll try to find newer iMac, but have no idea where ATM
>> > > > > > > > :(((
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I will be on vacation 1-15 August without any access to
>> > > > > > > > internet (maybe
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > occasional access to mobile internet)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > I thought to release before my vacation
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Do you think it is possible?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 12:35, seba.wag...@gmail.com <se
>> > > > > > > > ba.wag...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> I'm using Safari 13 and it doesn't work.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> And I think I'm not alone.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Thanks
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Seb
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Sebastian Wagner
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-4968
>> > > > > > > > -af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> <https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b02
>> > > > > > > > -9faf-099038475e36/public_url>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 17:34, Maxim Solodovnik <soloma
>> > > > > > > > x...@gmail.com>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Hello Sebastian, All,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> I just was able to get real iMac to test
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> It has Safari 11 (and I have no rights to update it)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Everything works as expected
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> I have tested demo-next as-is
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> My steps were
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> 1) on Safari enter restricted room
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> 2) start Audio only broadcasting
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: green sound bar is jumping
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> 3) enter same room Ubuntu 20.04+Chromium latest
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Result: I can hear the audio in the room
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> I will have access to the iMac for couple more hours,
>> > > > > > > > please let me know
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> if I should do any additional tests
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> On Mon, 27 Jul 2020 at 04:32, seba.wag...@gmail.com <
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> seba.wag...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> As reported in a few email discussions: Safari on
>> > > > > > > > iOS does not capture
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> audio.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> We could establish that playback is fine. But
>> > > > > > > > capturing audio does not
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> work.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are currently two tickets we have:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2277 - Fixing the capture of audio
>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> conference room (some other subject but we
>> > > > > > > > established that that's the
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> root
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> cause)
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>  - OPENMEETINGS-2412 - Fixing the capture of audio
>> > > > > > > > on Safari/iOS in
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> setup
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> testing tool
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> There are various discussions where some think some
>> > > > > > > > code change on our
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> end
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> would fix it.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> I am not sure about that.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> There seems to be even the official webRTC samples
>> > > > > > > > broken for
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Safari/iOS:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> See for example webRTC samples section:
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://webrtc.github.io/samples/src/content/getuser
>> > > > > > > > media/audio/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Works in Chrome/iOS
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> => Fails in Safari/iOS
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> I also started a discussion at discuss-webRTC :
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://groups.google.com/g/discuss-webrtc/c/XBeiy3G
>> > > > > > > > pVLg/m/kbsCU25IBgAJ
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> In my opinion: Fixing this issue inside OpenMeetings
>> > > > > > > > is rather complex.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> As
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> there is a lot of other code. So I would like to see
>> > > > > > > > a simple minimal
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> code
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> example to start with. If that works fine, I'm
>> > > > > > > > convinced we can fix it
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> in
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> OpenMeetings too!
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Are there other opinions or ideas on how to approach
>> > > > > > > > this ?
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> If there is no reply or not an answer on discuss-
>> > > > > > > > webRTC I would also
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> like
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> to interview people at Kurento mailing lists.
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Thanks,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Sebastian Wagner
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> Director Arrakeen Solutions
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> http://arrakeen-solutions.co.nz/
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> <
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/da4e8828-743d-496
>> > > > > > > > 8-af6f-49033f10d60a/public_url
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> <
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> https://www.youracclaim.com/badges/b7e709c6-aa87-4b0
>> > > > > > > > 2-9faf-099038475e36/public_url
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>> >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Best regards,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>> Maxim
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >>
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > > Maxim
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > --
>> > > > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > > > Maxim
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > --
>> > > > > Best regards,
>> > > > > Maxim
>> >
>> > --
>> > Best regards,
>> > Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best regards,
>> Maxim
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
> Best regards,
> Maxim
>
>

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Best regards,
Maxim

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