Not at all- I have worked in so many shops where something minor would popup like jsp wouldnt compile and the developer hadnt a clue what was going on Quite frankly (no pun intended) the developer should have vi and a shell if the application does not build and deploy properly in the shell then there isn't any IDE that is going to help +1 -Martin ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:30 AM Subject: RE: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components development
> I'm going to pull a Bill Gates here... > > "UltraEdit and a command prompt should be enough for anybody!" > > Seriously though... I know many people swear by this IDE or that IDE, but > I've done a large number of projects ranging from small ones to huge ones, > and each and every one was done with nothing more than a top-notch text > editor. And I've found that as compared to those members of the team that > used one IDE or another, even when those members pretty much knew the > technologies involved better than me, I worked just as fast or faster than > them. > > Maybe I'm a freak of nature or something, but I prefer to believe there's > simply less getting in the way when I work. Less between me and the metal > if you will :) Besides, I'm in complete control of what's going on below me > in this scenario. No forced directory structures, no canned code that I > have to take time to understand, no arcane error messages to decypher when > the IDE decides it can't compile my code for one reason or another. > > I think except for a good debugger, IDE's tend to get in the way more than > they help, that's been my experience anyway. And when you consider that > most of what you do as a programmer comes down to text editing anyway... > > > >From: "Navjot Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components > >development > >Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:41:30 +0530 > > > >Hi List, > > > >I am about to start development work on some auction site which in > >principle > >is similar to e-bay but not of that scale. I will be using J2EE+Jboss. > > > >What kind of IDE development environment do you guys use for the > >development? > > > >I just tried Eclipse + EasyStruts + Lomboz. Lomboz is good but not good > >enough. > > > >1. I still have to carefully edit ejb-jar and jboss files to make my things > >run. > >2. The directory structure that it creates in the background is not good. > >3. The xdoclet tags that it generates is for all servers. e.g JOnAs jboss, > >weblogic. but i need for only jboss. > >4. The build files that it generates are bit obscure. > > > >Easy Struts is just OK and doesn't provide much time saving to me. I can > >live without it also. Moreover, EasyStruts doesn't work with Eclipse 3.0. > > > >In nutshell, the entire development environment becomes unorganized, if not > >complex. > > > >I wish to know what kinda env do you use? How do streamline your > >development > >process? > > > >TIA > >Navjot Singh > > > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Toolbar provides one-click access to Hotmail from any Web page - FREE > download! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200413ave/direct/01/ > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]