Not at all-
I have worked in so many shops where something minor would popup like jsp
wouldnt compile and the developer hadnt a clue
what was going on
Quite frankly (no pun intended) the developer should have vi and a shell
if the application does not build and deploy properly in the shell
then there isn't any IDE that is going to help
+1
-Martin
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Frank Zammetti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:30 AM
Subject: RE: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components
development


> I'm going to pull a Bill Gates here...
>
> "UltraEdit and a command prompt should be enough for anybody!"
>
> Seriously though... I know many people swear by this IDE or that IDE, but
> I've done a large number of projects ranging from small ones to huge ones,
> and each and every one was done with nothing more than a top-notch text
> editor.  And I've found that as compared to those members of the team that
> used one IDE or another, even when those members pretty much knew the
> technologies involved better than me, I worked just as fast or faster than
> them.
>
> Maybe I'm a freak of nature or something, but I prefer to believe there's
> simply less getting in the way when I work.  Less between me and the metal
> if you will :)  Besides, I'm in complete control of what's going on below
me
> in this scenario.  No forced directory structures, no canned code that I
> have to take time to understand, no arcane error messages to decypher when
> the IDE decides it can't compile my code for one reason or another.
>
> I think except for a good debugger, IDE's tend to get in the way more than
> they help, that's been my experience anyway.  And when you consider that
> most of what you do as a programmer comes down to text editing anyway...
>
>
> >From: "Navjot Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components
> >development
> >Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2004 10:41:30 +0530
> >
> >Hi List,
> >
> >I am about to start development work on some auction site which in
> >principle
> >is similar to e-bay but not of that scale. I will be using J2EE+Jboss.
> >
> >What kind of IDE development environment do you guys use for the
> >development?
> >
> >I just tried Eclipse + EasyStruts + Lomboz. Lomboz is good but not good
> >enough.
> >
> >1. I still have to carefully edit ejb-jar and jboss files to make my
things
> >run.
> >2. The directory structure that it creates in the background is not good.
> >3. The xdoclet tags that it generates is for all servers. e.g JOnAs
jboss,
> >weblogic. but i need for only jboss.
> >4. The build files that it generates are bit obscure.
> >
> >Easy Struts is just OK and doesn't provide much time saving to me. I can
> >live without it also. Moreover, EasyStruts doesn't work with Eclipse 3.0.
> >
> >In nutshell, the entire development environment becomes unorganized, if
not
> >complex.
> >
> >I wish to know what kinda env do you use? How do streamline your
> >development
> >process?
> >
> >TIA
> >Navjot Singh
> >
> >
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