Just curious, why do you say UltraEdit isn't good for Java development?

It seems like, and this is the case here at work as well, that there is two schools of thought... one group says that IDEs and the like are better because of all the added development-specific tools you get (i.e., code insight, perspectives, generators, etc.), and the other school says that since programming is mostly text editing anyway, then a good text editor is all you really need.

I think if your thinking is in the first group to begin with, then regardless of how good a text editor anything is your not going to like it. Likewise, if your comfortable with just a good text editor, an IDE feels like unneeded baggage.

I don't think either way of thinking is better than the other frankly, I think people can be just as productive either way if they are comfortable with the tools they are using.

Frank

From: "Navjot Singh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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To: "Struts Users Mailing List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components development
Date: Fri, 4 Jun 2004 12:42:32 +0530


Thx for your inputs guys.

Ultraedit is good but not good for java development. I have been using it
for perl.
Jedit is also good but not as good as eclipse.

I have decided to adopt Eclipse+(MyEclipse+XDoclet)+Ant to start my project.
Quite powerful combination for me.


thx again.
navjot

>-----Original Message-----
>From: Andrea M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2004 8:37 PM
>To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Subject: R: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components
>development
>
>
>Mah
>Sincerely... there are features in IDEs that I don't know how would I do
>without.. like code insight... web descriptor (and even struts descriptor)
>editing.. and so on
>
>Of course I could do everything with notepad, but that often means getting
>crazy just to find a simple syntax error, or event to remember
>which methods
>are you inheriting up to the three.
>Noway.. I'll be a geek if you like but I don’t like to suffer with no
>reason.
>
>
>
>-----Messaggio originale-----
>Da: Marco Mistroni [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Inviato: giovedě 3 giugno 2004 15.50
>A: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
>Oggetto: RE: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components
>development
>
>Hi there,
> Jedit+xdoclet+mysql+junit+dbunit+maven
>
>And u would write code, generate what u need, test it and deploy
>It with one click......
>
>IDE r powerful, no doubt on that, but I prefer plain old notepad..
>If u end up getting acquainted with a powerful IDE, then as soon
>As u change it u get lost............
>
>My 2 cents
>
>Regards
> marco
>
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Navjot Singh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: 03 June 2004 06:12
>To: Struts Users Mailing List
>Subject: [OT] Good env for struts-based-web-tier and ejb components
>development
>
>Hi List,
>
>I am about to start development work on some auction site which in
>principle
>is similar to e-bay but not of that scale. I will be using J2EE+Jboss.
>
>What kind of IDE development environment do you guys use for the
>development?
>
>I just tried Eclipse + EasyStruts + Lomboz. Lomboz is good but not good
>enough.
>
>1. I still have to carefully edit ejb-jar and jboss files to make my
>things
>run.
>2. The directory structure that it creates in the background is not
>good.
>3. The xdoclet tags that it generates is for all servers. e.g JOnAs
>jboss,
>weblogic. but i need for only jboss.
>4. The build files that it generates are bit obscure.
>
>Easy Struts is just OK and doesn't provide much time saving to me. I can
>live without it also. Moreover, EasyStruts doesn't work with Eclipse
>3.0.
>
>In nutshell, the entire development environment becomes unorganized, if
>not
>complex.
>
>I wish to know what kinda env do you use? How do streamline your
>development
>process?
>
>TIA
>Navjot Singh
>
>
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