And of course... there's a little thing could profit.
Keep your hands of my stash. W/ any O/S, I get better quality and keep more of my penies, important for profesional developers.
But specificaly, I have not used VB or C# Express, so it's hard for me to compare detials. It be great to hear from somone who deplpyed both in production.
.V
Jim Barrows wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Anders Jacobsen Sent: Sunday, September 12, 2004 3:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Advantages of J2EE w. Struts vs .NET ASP.NET
Hi
I think this place would be a good place to good some colored ;) comments on and Web applications implemented with J2EE w./ Struts and the same implemented with ASP.NET.
Microsoft people tends to have just one point-of-view so I hope I could find some people who preferable had experience with both frameworks.
I know itīs hard to find a winnner, but some con/pros from real developers would be of great value. The main functionality of the web application is edit/upate/delete operations and the like.
Well... let's start off with the fact that MS is NOT secure. If security is an issue, then MS's record to date is very worrisome. Yes, they've cleaned up their act a bit... however their problems are very deep in the fundamental way they do things. You can find some good discussions elsewhere.
Engineering would be next. In general the J2EE world's core tends to be better engineered. EJB being something of an exception, depending on who you talk to. I've seen more discussions of best practices and patterns on J2EE lists then I have on .Net lists. This may be more because I haven't chosen high quality lists. This may also be due to the higher incidence of trained monkey's in the MS world then software engineered.
Trained monkey's would be next. MS seems to attract developers who don't have any true understanding of how things work. I'm not sure why. It might be because they've made it so point and click that no one really understands what's going on, and even if they did they might not be able to do anything about it. I've seen far more "How do I show 1,000 items in a drop down list box?" type questions on MS lists then I have on Java lists. THe few I have seen, have all come from MS developers. MS has focused on providing cheap easy solutions, which is fine for the single computer model the has dominated so much of MS's history. There are very few cheap and easy solutions when developing enterprise wide software.
Last, and to a large degree, the most important is choice. I don't have to use Sun's VM. I don't have to use implementation of the JSP/Servlet spec. I don't have to use IBM's implementation either. I'm not tied to a database (ODBC is _NOT_ what I would call good database independance) vendor. I'm not tied to an OS Vendor, which means I'm not tied to a hardware platform. You can't run .Net on Sun, or AS400's or any hardware other then Intel. All of this means one thing... I can customize any Java based solution to fit any need.
Thanks in regards
Anders
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