Hi, Joe, This is certainly a reasonable request and I don't take it personally at all. I don't think what I have said is overblown. I will add more later, but for the moment let me say that one needs to articulate what Struts does and ask what is left with the new proposals. I will add more on that later today if I find the time. We can all do that, however. I do think that, if you want in any sense what Struts has been, I don't think what I said is alarmist but true. If not, I certainly would like to get the truth clarified. I have found your contributions to be clear, thought, and sound at all levels. I am more than happy to meet this request.
Jack > At 11:56 PM -0800 11/17/04, Dakota Jack wrote: > >The bottom line is that Shale is wholly inconsistent with the Struts > >approach. If Struts 2.0 becomes Shale, Struts is dead. > > Jack, don't take this personally, as I appreciate your energy and > your efforts to articulate an alternative -- but I see this as > alarmist and overblown. I have been trying to track this thread, and > I have yet to see a convincing argument backing up this statement. > > I'm still looking for the personal time to get Shale running and to > look at making an app with it, but if you're going to make this > statement (and you have a couple of times), then I think you need to > come up with a concise explanation of why Shale is "wholly > inconsistent with Struts." If you've made this point, I apologize > for missing that email. Maybe you could add it to the web site > you're developing, or on a page in the Wiki? > > Elaborating from this, one might ask "what is Struts?" Particularly > when one looks at the chain-processing model, the definition becomes > much more amorphous. Then again, I don't think the answer is > critically important. I don't really care what it's called; I just > want a webapp framework that makes my job easier. Continuity with > Struts 1.x will help with that, since I won't have to live through > retraining myself and the whole team -- but we've learned to deal > with lots of change anyway. > > Joe > > -- > Joe Germuska > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://blog.germuska.com > "Narrow minds are weapons made for mass destruction" -The Ex > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]