Brantley Hobbs wrote:
Hi all!
When our organization was making the decision between .NET and J2EE, we
were really struck by how powerful MS's idea of web forms were. The
ability to drag/drop web controls onto a page is very attractive, simply
because our developers were hired to develop; not generate HTML (as I'm
sure most of you were).
It's a great 90% solution. The last mile kills you.
What eventually did .NET in (at least for us)
was MS's abysmal security record, and the flexibility afforded by J2EE
(i.e., can be deployed on any platform that has a JVM for the most
part).
:-)
I let people do prototypes in HTML tools, there are many. Then I do ren *.html *.jsp.Struts was the first framework project we ran into after we took the J2EE plunge. We all really like Struts, but we have been looking for more streamlined ways of developing the view.
There are many GUI and UI tools for Struts, Java, etc.. You can just google, http://www.scioworks.com <http://www.scioworks.com/> is one.Well, I ran across Struts Layout (http://struts.application-servers.com/index.html). Perhaps I've been living under a rock for a while, but it was something that I'd never heard of before, and it seems to offer exactly what we longed for with MS's canned "web controls".
Does anyone here have any familiarity with this project? How does it compare with JSF or even with some of the other presentation layer projects like Velocity, etc.
One idea that I really like about struts layout is that it's tied directly back to struts, so it seems that it might be a more elegant solution than mixing technologies.
Any input?
For pro applications, you live in the last 10% and the last mile, so some of us like to hand code. It's acctualy cheaper and faster to do so.
Why?
80% of cost of software is maitnance and upgrades. Once you hand code it, it's very maintainable. If somone says change that and make it do X, with handcoded JSP/html I have ninimal problems.
(For JDNC I have tried JFormDesigner).
It depends how you compute your cost of development.
So I don't use generators, nor UI generators.
.V
Thanks,
Brantley Hobbs
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