Fogleson, Allen wrote:
I think the biggest argument was stated by Nicolas.
I use struts because I like it sure, but I really use it because it is
the framework that the client will accept and pay for and my developers
know best.
We recently used (portions) of Spring on a project and had a heck of a time getting the client to accept the app during user testing. Granted there were a bunch of other issues with this particular client that went against "best practices" but the major sticking point was Spring. (note we didn't even use the MVC part of spring even, just the beanfactory stuff)
Struts has of course gained popular acceptance so clients really don't
think much about it when you say you are using it, vs something else.
Al
-----Original Message-----
From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2005 10:17 AM
To: Justin Morgan
Cc: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: Re: MVC Frameworks
For my part, I still prefer Struts because I think it has a great potential if it endorses some move to IoC and does not fall off the strict web MVC pattern. I have no time for the event-based frameworks like Echo, Tapestry, JSF, Shale, etc. Others need that sort of thing. What framework you choose depends a lot on what you want to do, the sophistication of your developers, etc.
Jack
On Tue, 8 Mar 2005 08:44:26 -0600, Justin Morgan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thanks...
I recently picked up Rod Johnson's J2EE Design and Development (ISBN: 0-7645-4385-7), and Chapter 12 is titled "Web-Tier MVC Design"... I'm going to assume this chapter is pretty similar to the one you mention.
I agree with you that this author is incredibly clear-minded, and I'm soaking it all in. Most of the book is model-neutral, and focuses
more
on good practices and patterns, which is great because we have not decided on a model yet. But in chapter 12 he only really discusses Struts, Maverick, and WebWork. I was hoping for some commentary on
JSF
and Tapestry as well, especially regarding why one might choose one
over
the other.
It all boils down to two questions: 1. Why do you prefer Struts over any other web application framework? (Tapestry, JSF, Maverick, WebWork, etc) 2. Why should _I_ prefer <insert framework here>?
The second question is not meant to make anyone defensive; I'm just trying to get past
Thanks,
-Justin
-----Original Message----- From: Dakota Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 07, 2005 3:30 PM To: Struts Users Mailing List Subject: Re: MVC Frameworks
Rod Johnson (author of Spring and one of the clearest thinkers I have ever read IMHO) has a good discussion of the options in J2EE Development without EJB in Chapter 13: Web Tier Design.
Jack
On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 14:19:47 -0600, Justin Morgan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
Hi there,
I am currently researching different web application frameworks...
JSF,
Struts, and Tapestry specifically. We are planning to migrate a
large
existing web application to a rigorous model 2 standard using one or more of these frameworks, and I am looking for more information on
the
differences between them. My research thus far has turned up only a
few
sources, and many of them seem religiously biased toward one of
them.
If any of you have opinions, or better yet, articles contrasting
these
technologies, please let me know.
Thanks,
-Justin
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