Thank Leon and Christopher for java hosting prices.

It seems it is more profitable in Europe. The US site Chris mentioned
uses Tomcat 5.

Leon, what java application softwares do you  provide in addition to the
server softwares? Do you think add EJB support can increase your
profitability?

I am thinking to add user cusomizable java forum, java blogs (like PHP
did)  for their corresonding hosted sites, in addition to EJB, struts,
Jboss, mysql, postgesql support.

Cheers,

John H. Xu
http://www.usanalyst.com
http://www.GetusJobs.com (The largest free job portal in North America)

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Christopher Marsh-Bourdon"
  To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
  Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
  Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 20:28:32 +0100

  >
  > http://www.prokmu.com/
  >
  > After looking at this, my servers are going on eBay! Sometimes it
  > doesn't pay to own your own kit.
  >
  > Cheers
  >
  > Christopher Marsh-Bourdon
  > www.marsh-bourdon.com
  > AIM: marshbourdon
  >
  >
  > On 27 Jul 2005, at 20:08, Leon Rosenberg wrote:
  >
  > >
  > > I charge 15-20 euro / month for an own tomcat, full ssh/scp
  access, apache
  > > in front, mysql dbs, mail server and so on.
  > > 30 euro for a full service package including backups and appl.
  level
  > > support.
  > >
  > > (from 50 euro on you can rent a complete machine at different
  providers in
  > > germany)
  > >
  > > Just for info :-)
  > >
  > > Leon
  > >
  > > P.S. 1 euro is 1.2 USD
  > >
  > >
  > >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
  > >> Von: John Henry Xu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  > >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. Juli 2005 20:18
  > >> An: Struts Users Mailing List
  > >> Betreff: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
  > >>
  > >> +1 on Yan Hu, Tamas and Pedro
  > >>
  > >> If one open a web hosting business, what should J2EE hosting
  > >> (including EJB, struts, JSP, servlets, MySQL, PostgreSQL, web
  > >> services on JBoss) charge per month that you are willing to
  > >> pay? What is the market price
  > >> for such hosting now? It seems there is a market there I
  > >> can explore.
  > >>
  > >> Regards,
  > >>
  > >> John H. Xu
  > >>
  > >> http://www.usanalyst.com
  > >> http://www.GetusJobs.com (The largest free job portal in
  > >> North America)
  > >>
  > >> ----- Original Message -----
  > >> From: "Pedro Salgado"
  > >> To: "Struts Users Mailing List"
  > >> Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!!
  > >> Date: Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:47:20 +0200
  > >>
  > >>
  > >>>
  > >>> +1 for that answer.
  > >>>
  > >>> Pedro Salgado
  > >>>
  > >>> On 27/07/2005 08:15, "Tamas Szabo" wrote:
  > >>>
  > >>>
  > >>>> I wouldn't bet on PHP being more popular than Java webapps.
  > >>>>
  > >>>> I think that there will be more smaller Java webapps if there
  > >>>>
  > >> were much
  > >>
  > >>>> support for them at web hosting companies.
  > >>>> I know several cases when Java webapp programmers, had
  > >>>>
  > >> to use PHP
  > >> to
  > >>
  > >>>> make some smaller webapps for someone because most web hosting
  > >>>>
  > >> companies
  > >>
  > >>>> offer PHP support but they have no
  > >>>> Java webcontainers installed.
  > >>>>
  > >>>> Tamas
  > >>>>
  > >>>>
  > >>>>
  > >>>> Yan Hu wrote:
  > >>>>
  > >>>>
  > >>>>> Xu:
  > >>>>> One of the reasons why you see a lot of PHP apps is that
  there
  > >>>>>
  > >> are always a
  > >>
  > >>>>> lot more small apps
  > >>>>> than large scale ones. I can not imagin you program a large
  > >>>>>
  > >> scale site using
  > >>
  > >>>>> PHP. If you are an OO
  > >>>>> guy, I could hardly imagin you even would like PHP(mixing all
  > >>>>>
  > >> server side
  > >>
  > >>>>> code with html code).
  > >>>>> There are a lot of java intranet applications you will never
  be
  > >>>>>
  > >> able to
  > >>
  > >>>>> access. PHP has its niche
  > >>>>> in the small app domain. It is fine. But it will never
  > >>>>>
  > >> be at the
  > >> same level
  > >>
  > >>>>> as Java. I do not
  > >>>>> understand why you think PHP is more popular than Java. Let
  me
  > >>>>>
  > >> ask you one
  > >>
  > >>>>> simple question. Why
  > >>>>> are there so many more java jobs than PHP jobs? Anyone
  > >>>>>
  > >> will tell
  > >> you it is
  > >>
  > >>>>> because there is a lot
  > >>>>> more demand for java. So you get the idea. With the advent of
  > >>>>>
  > >> JSF, Java will
  > >>
  > >>>>> be even sexier. I
  > >>>>> have long wished for something like asp.net code behind in
  C#.
  > >>>>>
  > >> Now we have
  > >>
  > >>>>> JSF code behind in
  > >>>>> Java. If asp.net can be a big success, why can't JSF?
  > >>>>>
  > >>>>>
  > >>>>>
  > >>>>>
  > >>>>>
  > >>
  > >>
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