Nice article. that explains why google save sites the way it is. So all pages that will not be changed should have no .php, .asp, at most .html/.shtml. Only dynamically changing pages should use .php, .asp or .jsp.
John H. Xu http://www.usanalyst.com http://www.GetusJobs.com (The largest free job portal in North America) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff Beal" To: "Struts Users Mailing List" Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!! Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:23:55 -0400 > > In Tim Berners-Lee's defense, the URI without '.html' works. The link > from Google included the '.html', and I didn't notice it when I pasted > into the email. It's Google's fault! > > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI > > -- Jeff > > On 7/29/05, Marsh-Bourdon, Christopher > wrote: > > It is vaguely amusing that the page's url dos not adhere to the page's > > content! > > > > Not sure how practical it would be to use url that do not contain an (file) > > extension with Struts or most web app frameworks. Aren't they there to give > > guidance to their content (Hacker subterfuge excluded)? > > > > It shouldn't detract from the idea of page "longevity", which would make a > > for a better web. > > > > Christopher Marsh-Bourdon > > www.marsh-bourdon.com > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Beal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: 29 July 2005 13:55 > > To: Struts Users Mailing List > > Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!! > > > > Imagine a company currently using PHP who decides their app has grown past > > the constraints of PHP. It would be silly of them to change the file > > extension on their URIs just because they're changing technology, so they > > just map *.php to the Struts Servlet. > > > > Of course, if the web developers at that company were really smart, they'd > > have been following the guidelines described in > > http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html and wouldn't have such a problem. > > Few people do this, though. > > > > -- Jeff > > > > On 7/28/05, John Henry Xu wrote: > > > I mapped to .html but not .asp, and I doubt many people would map java > > > apps to .php, .asp or .aspx in hosting companies (Of course u can > > > technically but I can not see the benefit). That's why I assume if I > > > see .php, I know it is php site with 99% confidence. > > > > > > The reason for our mapping to html was that this page is rather stable > > > and I don't change their contents over time (in general). And for > > > security reason as Stéphane said. For PHP and perl it is very simple > > > to do that. For java it is a little more difficult but manageable. It > > > can give you more URL addresses as Neil said. > > > > > > As for jsf, is it .jspx? or maybe mapping to others? It is possible > > > jsf maps to html. jsf using .aspx? It is unthinkable even technically > > > possible. > > > > > > John H. Xu > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Neil Erdwien" > > > To: "Struts Users Mailing List" > > > Subject: Re: JSF is the beginning of the end of Struts !!! > > > Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 11:01:29 -0500 > > > > > > > > > > > I presume preserving URLs is the reason to map one technology's > > > > default extention to another. For example, if you have a static > > > > web site with files than end in .html, and switch to Java/Struts, > > > > then you can map *.html to the Struts' action servlet. > > > > > > > > The end users' bookmarks don't have to change, but you're really > > > > running a Struts action under the covers. > > > > > > > > > > > > Stéphane Zuckerman wrote: > > > > > John Henry Xu a écrit : > > > > > > > > > >>>> Actually, my favorite sites are the > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> ones that map "*.asp" to the Struts servlet. Gotta love people > > > that > > > > >>> bend minds like that! > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> I cannot imagine what motivates people tried to map there > > > servlets to > > > > >> .asp. Even I could easily map my site to .aspx, I would not do > > > that. > > > > >> Although I respect MS, I am not really a huge fun of Microsoft. > > > If I > > > > >> implement sites with Java, I want java take credits. If I > > > implement sites > > > > >> in PHP, I want PHP take credits, I would not map that to .asp. > > > If I use > > > > >> .net, I don't map it to jsp also. If I saw a site ends with .php > > > or > > > > >> .aspx, I assume that was a php and .net site, and I belieave I > > > am right > > > > >> on that with 99% confidence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess this is against wannabe crackers. Yes, yes, I know, > > > security > > > > > through obscurity, blah blah blah... Well, once you've done > > > everything > > > > > that isn't obfuscation-related, there is only obscurity that > > > remains, > > > > > and frankly, it does help gain a few {minutes,hours} before the > > > nasty > > > > > black hats break the server. :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Neil Erdwien, [EMAIL PROTECTED], Web Technologies Manager > > > > Computing and Network Services, Kansas State University > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > John H. 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