The "bar" to committing on Struts is NOT the issue.  The issue is the mess.
I cannot agree more with Jonathan.  It is soooo good to hear from someone
who sounds mature and sensible.

On 3/23/06, Dave Newton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jonathan Revusky wrote:
> > I already am spending too much time on this [...]
>
> Agreed.
>
> > 2. I know that there is significant animosity towards me here [...]
>
> My animosity towards you is from years ago, actually; I won't speak for
> anybody else.
>
> > From whence???? From whence???? Is the Shakespearean festival nigh?
>
> Ooo! A zinger! Forsooth!
>
> > It's just mind-boggling to be trying to answer this kind of question
> > really....
>
> I imagine that it is, for you... trying to imagine how an open-source
> project that was developed for somebody else's use might not be
> obligated to listen to anybody else.
>
> >> It appears as though you believe that if someone is willing and able to
> >> pitch in that they should have commit rights, which is not really the
> >> same thing.
> > As a practical matter, it basically means giving people commit rights.
> > Trying to let people work on stuff while keeping them at arm's length
> > just is unlikely to work for long. If you're going to let someone do
> > some work, yeah, you have to open the door and let them in.
>
> I really don't believe we're so far apart on this: I think the bar for
> commiting to Struts is too high as well. At the same time, I would
> definitely _not_ give commit rights to anybody that asked for them, and
> the project would be better off for it.
>
> Even in the limited scope of this mailing list I have seen some pretty
> frightening code--I would _not_ want the authors of said code to be able
> to inject similar code into the project, and I would _not_ want to have
> to surf the repository regularly to remove or fix it.
>
> > At the moment, I think it is mostly because this whole dysfunctional
> > scene exerts a morbid fascination on me. It's actually funny in a very
> > dark humor sort of way, you know.
>
> On this we are in perfect agreement :)
>
> Dave
>
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