Hello Joe. Haven't seen a post from you in a while. Got me thinking. I just wanted to say, for the record, you and Niall and your fellow team members rock!
I have been a subscriber to this list for years. I don't use Struts anymore because I don't author HTML/HTTP browser applications anymore. So many of you may not know who I am because I haven't posted in a while. There was a time when I volunteered a lot answering questions on this list though, and of course asking a ton of questions as a user. Struts, WebWork, Spring, scriplets, tags, framework, no framework, J2EE, no J2EE, I always tried not to get caught up in the implementation details (sounds funny for a programmer to say such a thing). Frameworks, methods and practices come and go as do other work trends. HTTP/HTML is only one possible combination of a large number available in the seven-layer network. To stake too much on any of this is to limit yourself as a programmer. What's important never changes -- it's the people! (Oh yeah, lookup tables remain important too, I guess. ;) ) And the job of a programmer is nothing more than to make an electronic device do what he, or his customer, wants it to do. So, I just wanted to say, to Joe, Niall, Hubert, Craig, James and the others (please don't think because I didn't mention your name that I don't appreciate you -- I remember many others, developers as well as users), Struts was a great framework to me because you guys helped your users with a professional and friendly attitude, even when we asked the same old dumb questions again and again. You helped me and many others get our jobs done and put food on the table. Whether Struts or WebWork or any other framework is here today or tomorrow isn't that important. You guys will still be around, plugging away, answering your users' questions and treating others with respect and dignity, and making whatever project with which you are associated a winner. Keep up the great work. Sincerely, Erik -----Original Message----- >From: Joe Germuska <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Mar 29, 2006 11:26 AM >To: user@struts.apache.org >Subject: Open Source Motivations (Re: I Apologize) > >At 5:30 PM +0200 3/29/06, Jonathan Revusky wrote: >>It has some clear implications too. No matter how you shake it, the >>two things were technical *competitors*. Normally, the Struts people >>should be about as happy to say that Webwork is better as to have a >>tooth pulled. So if they say it... > >Here you ascribe an outlook on things to "the Struts people" which >assumes that your motivations are theirs. > >Frankly, this is inaccurate for me. I see open source software as >cooperative, not competitive, even between projects. > >I think Niall's answer to the question "why did Struts development >stagnate" is pretty much what I would say. I'm not doing this for >bragging rights, and it's not the only thing I like to do in my spare >time. I contribute when I can. If it helps anyone, that's great. >As far as I can tell it hasn't hurt anyone. > >Also note that the WebWork team is supporting this merger process. >As far as I know, none of them have vigorously objected, nor sworn to >carry on WebWork under its own name, etc. So perhaps there is >another group of developers whose motivations are not what you >personally might guess they are. > >Joe > >-- >Joe Germuska >[EMAIL PROTECTED] * http://blog.germuska.com > >"You really can't burn anything out by trying something new, and >even if you can burn it out, it can be fixed. Try something new." > -- Robert Moog > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
