Thanks Lou,

I'm still not totally following.

In UIMA-AS, I could deploy services (as the administrator) using: 
deployAsyncService.sh $SOME_DEPLOYMENT_DESCRIPTOR $BROKER_URL

I thought the equivalent in DUCC was (for example):  ducc_services --register 
 --process_descriptor $SOME_DEPLOYMENT_DESCRIPTOR  --classpath $CLASSPATH 
--autostart true

In the first case, I don't recall worrying about passwords - I presume 
deployAsyncService was privileged and knew any broker credentials. Are you 
saying the command line utility ducc_services is unaware of 
ducc-broker-credentionals.properties and there is no other way for the ducc 
user to pass these credentionals to the broker when registering/auto-start 
services?

Sorry for the confusion, new to DUCC. I can see the 
$DUCC_HOME/resources.private/ducc-broker-credentials.properties - I just don't 
know how to use them when deploying (same thing as registering and starting?) a 
service.

 -John



-----Original Message-----
From: Lou DeGenaro [mailto:lou.degen...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 1:34 PM
To: user@uima.apache.org
Subject: Re: DUCC Security Model for Service Deployment

The DUCC broker is for DUCC.  User services should employ a separate user 
broker, not the DUCC broker.

That said, with proper permissions you can discover the DUCC broker user and pw 
in $DUCC_HOME/resources.private/ducc-broker-credentials.properties

Lou.

On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Osborne, John David (Campus) < ozb...@uab.edu> 
wrote:

> Yes - the idea (based on a previous UIMA-AS workflow) was to attached 
> services to the broker and have other application/s call them as needed.
>
>
> I thought this was still done with DUCC?
>
>
> I see what I *think* is the active security configuration in 
> activemq.xml
> below:
>
>
> <simpleAuthenticationPlugin anonymousAccessAllowed="false">
>             <users>
>                 <authenticationUser username="${ducc.broker.admin.username}"
> password="${ducc.broker.admin.password}"
>                     groups="ducc-admin"/>
>             </users>
>         </simpleAuthenticationPlugin>
>
>
> I'm registering services and running ducc as user ducc.
>
>
>  -John
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Lou DeGenaro <lou.degen...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2017 12:19:21 PM
> To: user@uima.apache.org
> Subject: Re: DUCC Security Model for Service Deployment
>
> DUCC has its own password protected AMQ broker used for daemon 
> communications.  Are your services trying to use DUCC's broker?
>
> Lou.
>
> On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Osborne, John David (Campus) < 
> ozb...@uab.edu> wrote:
>
> > I am having deploying services with DUCC using a single system, 
> > single user setup. I can run test jobs, so I *think* my system is 
> > set up
> correctly
> > but I can't register and then start services due to 
> > "SecurityException on Connect".
> >
> >
> > I don't understand how when registering services the credentionals 
> > are passed to DUCC, I know it uses activemq credentionals, but there 
> > is no parameter to pass them on the command line.
> >
> >
> > I am registering the service like this:
> >
> > /web/servers/apache-uima-ducc-2.2.0/bin/ducc_services --register 
> > --process_descriptor_DD  ../resources/desc/deployment/ 
> > ImportDocumentsDeploymentDescriptorSimple.xml --description "Pull 
> > Documents" --classpath $CLASSPATH --autostart true
> >
> >
> > I have not messed with any of the configuration files 
> > (credentional.properties, etc...) under apache-activemq.
> >
> >
> > My error (actually a warning) is below:
> >
> >
> > Any help appreciated,
> >
> >
> >  -John
> >
> >
> > INFO: Controller: MedicsClobsConsumer Trying to Start Listener on
> > Endpoint: queue://MRN_Document_Pull_Queue Selector: Command=2001 Broker:
> > tcp://localhost:61617
> > >>> Service Container Deployed Successfully
> > DuccAbstractProcessContainer.deploy() <<<<<<<< User Container 
> > deployed .... Deployed Processing Container - Initialization 
> > Successful - Thread 1
> > 18 Jul 2017 11:40:22,858  INFO AgentSession - T[1] 
> > notifyAgentWithStatus ... Job Process State Changed - PID:5803. 
> > Process State: Running. JMX 
> > Url:service:jmx:rmi:///jndi/rmi://uimaprapp1.hs.uab.edu:2105/jmxrmi
> > Dispatched State Update Event to Agent with IP:10.23.142.165 Jul 18, 
> > 2017 11:40:23 AM org.apache.uima.adapter.jms.activemq.
> > UimaDefaultMessageListenerContainer onException
> > WARNING: Service: MedicsClobsConsumer Runtime Exception Jul 18, 2017 
> > 11:40:23 AM org.apache.uima.adapter.jms.activemq.
> > UimaDefaultMessageListenerContainer onException
> > WARNING: Jms Listener Failed. Endpoint: MRN_Document_Pull_Queue 
> > Managed
> > By: tcp://localhost:61617 Reason: org.apache.activemq.
> ConnectionFailedException:
> > The JMS connection has failed: Force close due to SecurityException 
> > on connect Jul 18, 2017 11:40:23 AM 
> > org.apache.uima.adapter.jms.activemq.
> > UimaDefaultMessageListenerContainer handleListenerSetupFailure
> > WARNING: Uima AS Service:MedicsClobsConsumer Listener Unable To 
> > Connect
> To
> > Broker: tcp://localhost:61617 Retrying Until Successful ...
> >
> >
> >
>

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